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I was looking through pictures of Sydney, Australia's airport, never been; just dreaming, and saw an UPS B767 and B747 picture. I was just wondering how they flow a/c and crews through Asia, E. Europe, and Australia??
Thanks for the info.

A UPS wannabe
 
The 767 in Sidney is crewed out of the ONT domicle. It's a clean 6 on, 8 off line, and goes pretty senior. It has a 24 hour layover in HNL and 14 hours in Sidney, the it goes up through Asia, ANC, and back.

The best of the international trips are 12 days on and the rest of the month off. They usually have a 48 hour or so layover built in somewhere. The intra-Europe flying is hubbed in Cologne with mostly SDF based A300 and 757/767 crews. The Airbus folks have to deadhead over on company aircraft (mostly no commercials like we used to have on the 727 fleet). The 757/767 Europe stuff starts out of SDF or PHL, fly over the pond, work for a while intra Europe with a 48 hour weekend layover in CGN, and then fly back over the pond. The best of these trips are 12 on, 16 off, but sometimes they break them up which makes it worse for commuting.

Intra-Asia is flown by both the SDF international and ONT bases. Out of ONT, it's mostly 12 on, 16 off, but, again, some of the lines are broken up or contain fillers. A few of the ONT lines will commercial you to or from Asia but mostly you deadhead to and from ANC and from there you operate to Asia, fly intra-Asia, and then back to ANC.

All the fleets do some international flying and it tends to go pretty senior, especially the lines that are good for commuting.
 
de727ups said:
The 767 in Sidney is crewed out of the ONT domicle. It's a clean 6 on, 8 off line, and goes pretty senior. It has a 24 hour layover in HNL and 14 hours in Sidney, the it goes up through Asia, ANC, and back.

The best of the international trips are 12 days on and the rest of the month off. They usually have a 48 hour or so layover built in somewhere. The intra-Europe flying is hubbed in Cologne with mostly SDF based A300 and 757/767 crews. The Airbus folks have to deadhead over on company aircraft (mostly no commercials like we used to have on the 727 fleet). The 757/767 Europe stuff starts out of SDF or PHL, fly over the pond, work for a while intra Europe with a 48 hour weekend layover in CGN, and then fly back over the pond. The best of these trips are 12 on, 16 off, but sometimes they break them up which makes it worse for commuting.

Intra-Asia is flown by both the SDF international and ONT bases. Out of ONT, it's mostly 12 on, 16 off, but, again, some of the lines are broken up or contain fillers. A few of the ONT lines will commercial you to or from Asia but mostly you deadhead to and from ANC and from there you operate to Asia, fly intra-Asia, and then back to ANC.

All the fleets do some international flying and it tends to go pretty senior, especially the lines that are good for commuting.


Thanks for the info..
 
Where else does UPS fly to out of ONT? What times are the flights to HNL? A friend of mine is on the CASS program and looking to do some jumpseating on UPS.
 
sgu said:
I was just wondering how they flow a/c and crews through Asia, E. Europe, and Australia??
Thanks for the info.

A UPS wannabe
In a nut shell, put the heading indicator on "E" and keep going until you are back in SDF.
 
English said:
Where else does UPS fly to out of ONT? What times are the flights to HNL? A friend of mine is on the CASS program and looking to do some jumpseating on UPS.
UPS flies to many cities out of Ontario, Calif: Philadephia, Anchorage, Honolulu, Denver, Oakland, Portland, Seattle, Dallas, and most of the major cities west of Denver.

I'm currently flying ONT-HNL, and we have 3 departures a day during the week: 2 767s, and a 747. They depart at 7:30pm (767), 9:00pm (747), and 5:00am (767).
 
Thank you 767-300ER!


How many jumpseats are available on each of those flights (747 versus 767)?
 
English said:
How many jumpseats are available on each of those flights (747 versus 767)?
747 = 5 jumpseats (1 is a cockpit observer seat)
767 = 4 jumpseats

The 747 is a much nicer ride, with actual business class seats and (some aircraft) bunks in the back.
 
Awesome...thanks.


What about the times for the return flights?
 

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