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From the IPA, the UPS pilots' union:
> The following will hopefully provide a view on what will happen with the
> make up of each fleets/domicile flying for the rest of 2004 as well as a
little
> personal speculation for 2005. I hope the following will help those
> on fleets seeing fleet reductions with the ability to plan their future
> better.
>
> An overall view of our domestic flying is that the future will see very
> little growth. In fact, with the success of a very productive SDF
Worldport;
> it presently appears that UPS will eliminate some PHL next day air sort
> flights as more Airbuses arrive. With all the efficiency gains from
> the SDF Worldport, UPS can bring more and more volume to SDF by upsizing
> 757, DC-8, and 727?s to A300?s. One could say your Upgrade is in
Worldport.
> Our biggest problem is that we are grossly misaligned, especially on
> the A300. The crews for the A300 are located on the 727 and DC-8.
> With that said more DC-8?s and 727?s will be parked and only handful
> brought back to help for peak and those crews will be realigned to the
> A300 and MD-11. In fact, I expect to see the DC-8?s eventually taking
> most if not all of the 727 hot assignments. Now for the details:
>
> 727
>
> 727 will lose the following city BFI-YVR-BFI to a 757Ont next bid period.
> 727 will also lose DSM to a 757 on March 22nd.
> 727 is proposed to cancel RDU-PHL-RDU on April 5th but was put on hold.
> 727 will continue 757 RSW-SDF-RSW trip for the short term (04-03 and
> maybe 04-04).
> 727 is proposed to lose PHL-RFD-EWR to a 757 August 5th.
> 727 will lose the OKC-SDF-OKC to a 757 on September 13th.
>
> At the start of 2004, the 727 had 33 operational aircraft and by years
> end is proposed to have only 20 operational with 31 parked in the desert.
> The 727 could lose as many as 10 hard lines by years end.
>
> DC-8
>
> DC-8 was proposed to lose CLT-SDF-CLT to an A300 as April 5th but was
> put on hold.
> DC-8 is proposed to cancel CLT-PHL-CLT as April 5th but was put on hold.
> DC-8 is scheduled to begin PIE-SDF-PIE on April 5th for the first 3
> weeks of next bid.
> DC-8 is proposed to cancel MKE-PHL-MKE on July 1st.
> DC-8 is proposed to lose MKE-SDF-MKE to an A300 on July 1st.
> DC-8 is proposed to lose ORD-DFW-ORD to a 757 on August 5th.
> DC-8 is proposed to lose MSP-SDF-MSP to an A300 as a turn on September
> 6th
> DC-8 is proposed to lose MDT-SDF-MDT to an A300 on September 6th
> DC-8 is proposed to lose DTW-SDF-DTW to an A300 on September 27th.
> DC-8 is proposed to lose DFW-SDF-DFW to an A300 on November 1st.
>
> At the start of 2004, the DC-8 had 37 operational aircraft and by years
> end is proposed to have 29 operational with 12 parked in the desert.
> The DC-8 could lose as many as 18 hard lines by years end.
>
> 747
>
> 747 will gain a HKG rotation two days a week next bid period until peak.
> 747 will lose all China flying to MD-11 on July 26th.
> 747 will add DFW turns from MD-11 on July 26th.
>
> At the start of 2004, the 747 had 15 operational aircraft and by years
> end is proposed to have 7-100?s and 5-200?s for a total of 12 with 3-100?s
> parked in the desert. The 747 could lose as many as 10-15 hard lines
> in 2004.
>
> A300
>
> A300 began BFI-ONT-BFI on March 1st and will add BFI-GEG and back on
> April 5th.
> A300 is scheduled to begin MSY-SDF-MSY on March 22nd.
> A300 is scheduled to begin PIE-SDF-PIE on April 27th.
> A300 is scheduled to begin MKE-SDF-MKE on July 1st.
> A300 is scheduled to begin MHR-SDF-MHR on August 5th. (NDA & SDA)
> A300 is scheduled to begin MSP-PHL-MSP on September 6th.
> A300 is scheduled to begin MDT-SDF-MDT on September 6th
> A300 is scheduled to begin DTW-SDF-DTW on September 27th.
> A300 will lose ONT-DFW-ABQ-ONT to a MD-11 on September 27th.
> A300 is scheduled to begin DFW-SDF-DFW on November 1st.
> A300 will add VLC as an in transit stop on way to MAD on November 1st.
>
> We had 32 operational Airbuses at the beginning of 2004 and by year?s
> end we?ll have 40. The big question is how late will the staffing arrive
> to take on all this flying. The Airbus could easily take on 30 crews
> by years end.
>
> 757/767 Domestic Ontario Miami
>
>
> SDF is scheduled to begin MSY-SDF-MSY from a DC-8 on March 22nd.
> SDF is scheduled to begin DSM-SDF-DSM from a 727 on March 22nd.
> SDF is scheduled to begin ORD-DFW-ORD from a DC-8 on August 5th.
> SDF is scheduled to begin PHL-RFD-EWR from a 727 on August 5th.
>
> Ontario lost BFI-ONT-BFI on March 1st and will lose BFI-GEG and back
> on April 5th.
> Ontario will add BFI-YVR-BFI from a 727 on April 5th.
>
> Miami is proposed to cancel MC0-SJU-MCO on April 8th.
> Miami will see the usual temporary increase of flights to the Americas
> around various holidays (i.e. Valentines day, Easter and Mothers day).
>
> The entire 757/767 fleets consist of 75-757?s and 32-767?s. With the
> future addition of MSY, DSM, and ORD (short segments), one would hope
> to see improvement in trip quality and the ability to create more week
> on/week off lines in the 757 SDF base.
>
>
>
> MD-11
> MD-11 will add SDF-CGN (Sunday only) from SDFZ on April 3rd.
> Md-11 will lose PHL-CGN (Saturday only) to SDFZ on April 3rd.
> MD-11 will begin all China flying from 747 on July 26th.
> MD-11 will lose DFW turns to 747 on July 26th.
> MD-11 is proposed to fly ONT-DFW-ABQ-ONT from an A300 on September 27th.
>
> The MD-11 began 2004 with 9 operational aircraft and by years end will
> have 13. The MD-11 will probably add as many as 15 lines by years end.
>
> SDFZ
>
> SDFZ will lose SDF-CGN (Sunday only) to a MD-11 on April 3rd.
> SDFZ will add PHL-CGN (Saturday only) from a MD-11 on April 3rd.
> SDFZ will layover in BCN starting November 1st. A300 will add VLC to
> MAD trip.
>
>
>
>
> In closing, 2004 is going to be a realignment/training nightmare. In
> fact with the shrinking and more rapid extinction 727, DC-8 and 747
> flying and fleets, crewmembers will hopefully be able to use this synopsis
> to help them adjust their system bid accordingly. UPS updates their
> synopsis monthly and is driven by the marketplace and can and will change
> on a moments notice. However with that said, UPS has normally stuck
> pretty close to the annual plan and the following changes will most
> likely unfold just as dated or at worst case a bid period later.
> Now for a couple of personal 2005 predictions, I would expect to see
> the remaining 727 from WAW to go to a 757 and possibly add a Russian
> city from WAW. With the proposed 2005 opening of Nagoya, Japan, one
> can expect to see KIX and NRT flights routed to and laying over in Nagoya
> because landing fees will be 50% less. Also, look for possibly
NRT-PVG-NRT
> segment. UPS will also be in the hunt for any and all future routes
> from HKG to anywhere. Dubai-Johannesburg, I hear it anytime I pass
> through DXB gateway so I will add that as my last prediction. In fact,
> I have heard a lot of talk future DXB growth but don?t feel I have enough
> insight to add more DXB flying to the prediction list.
> The following will hopefully provide a view on what will happen with the
> make up of each fleets/domicile flying for the rest of 2004 as well as a
little
> personal speculation for 2005. I hope the following will help those
> on fleets seeing fleet reductions with the ability to plan their future
> better.
>
> An overall view of our domestic flying is that the future will see very
> little growth. In fact, with the success of a very productive SDF
Worldport;
> it presently appears that UPS will eliminate some PHL next day air sort
> flights as more Airbuses arrive. With all the efficiency gains from
> the SDF Worldport, UPS can bring more and more volume to SDF by upsizing
> 757, DC-8, and 727?s to A300?s. One could say your Upgrade is in
Worldport.
> Our biggest problem is that we are grossly misaligned, especially on
> the A300. The crews for the A300 are located on the 727 and DC-8.
> With that said more DC-8?s and 727?s will be parked and only handful
> brought back to help for peak and those crews will be realigned to the
> A300 and MD-11. In fact, I expect to see the DC-8?s eventually taking
> most if not all of the 727 hot assignments. Now for the details:
>
> 727
>
> 727 will lose the following city BFI-YVR-BFI to a 757Ont next bid period.
> 727 will also lose DSM to a 757 on March 22nd.
> 727 is proposed to cancel RDU-PHL-RDU on April 5th but was put on hold.
> 727 will continue 757 RSW-SDF-RSW trip for the short term (04-03 and
> maybe 04-04).
> 727 is proposed to lose PHL-RFD-EWR to a 757 August 5th.
> 727 will lose the OKC-SDF-OKC to a 757 on September 13th.
>
> At the start of 2004, the 727 had 33 operational aircraft and by years
> end is proposed to have only 20 operational with 31 parked in the desert.
> The 727 could lose as many as 10 hard lines by years end.
>
> DC-8
>
> DC-8 was proposed to lose CLT-SDF-CLT to an A300 as April 5th but was
> put on hold.
> DC-8 is proposed to cancel CLT-PHL-CLT as April 5th but was put on hold.
> DC-8 is scheduled to begin PIE-SDF-PIE on April 5th for the first 3
> weeks of next bid.
> DC-8 is proposed to cancel MKE-PHL-MKE on July 1st.
> DC-8 is proposed to lose MKE-SDF-MKE to an A300 on July 1st.
> DC-8 is proposed to lose ORD-DFW-ORD to a 757 on August 5th.
> DC-8 is proposed to lose MSP-SDF-MSP to an A300 as a turn on September
> 6th
> DC-8 is proposed to lose MDT-SDF-MDT to an A300 on September 6th
> DC-8 is proposed to lose DTW-SDF-DTW to an A300 on September 27th.
> DC-8 is proposed to lose DFW-SDF-DFW to an A300 on November 1st.
>
> At the start of 2004, the DC-8 had 37 operational aircraft and by years
> end is proposed to have 29 operational with 12 parked in the desert.
> The DC-8 could lose as many as 18 hard lines by years end.
>
> 747
>
> 747 will gain a HKG rotation two days a week next bid period until peak.
> 747 will lose all China flying to MD-11 on July 26th.
> 747 will add DFW turns from MD-11 on July 26th.
>
> At the start of 2004, the 747 had 15 operational aircraft and by years
> end is proposed to have 7-100?s and 5-200?s for a total of 12 with 3-100?s
> parked in the desert. The 747 could lose as many as 10-15 hard lines
> in 2004.
>
> A300
>
> A300 began BFI-ONT-BFI on March 1st and will add BFI-GEG and back on
> April 5th.
> A300 is scheduled to begin MSY-SDF-MSY on March 22nd.
> A300 is scheduled to begin PIE-SDF-PIE on April 27th.
> A300 is scheduled to begin MKE-SDF-MKE on July 1st.
> A300 is scheduled to begin MHR-SDF-MHR on August 5th. (NDA & SDA)
> A300 is scheduled to begin MSP-PHL-MSP on September 6th.
> A300 is scheduled to begin MDT-SDF-MDT on September 6th
> A300 is scheduled to begin DTW-SDF-DTW on September 27th.
> A300 will lose ONT-DFW-ABQ-ONT to a MD-11 on September 27th.
> A300 is scheduled to begin DFW-SDF-DFW on November 1st.
> A300 will add VLC as an in transit stop on way to MAD on November 1st.
>
> We had 32 operational Airbuses at the beginning of 2004 and by year?s
> end we?ll have 40. The big question is how late will the staffing arrive
> to take on all this flying. The Airbus could easily take on 30 crews
> by years end.
>
> 757/767 Domestic Ontario Miami
>
>
> SDF is scheduled to begin MSY-SDF-MSY from a DC-8 on March 22nd.
> SDF is scheduled to begin DSM-SDF-DSM from a 727 on March 22nd.
> SDF is scheduled to begin ORD-DFW-ORD from a DC-8 on August 5th.
> SDF is scheduled to begin PHL-RFD-EWR from a 727 on August 5th.
>
> Ontario lost BFI-ONT-BFI on March 1st and will lose BFI-GEG and back
> on April 5th.
> Ontario will add BFI-YVR-BFI from a 727 on April 5th.
>
> Miami is proposed to cancel MC0-SJU-MCO on April 8th.
> Miami will see the usual temporary increase of flights to the Americas
> around various holidays (i.e. Valentines day, Easter and Mothers day).
>
> The entire 757/767 fleets consist of 75-757?s and 32-767?s. With the
> future addition of MSY, DSM, and ORD (short segments), one would hope
> to see improvement in trip quality and the ability to create more week
> on/week off lines in the 757 SDF base.
>
>
>
> MD-11
> MD-11 will add SDF-CGN (Sunday only) from SDFZ on April 3rd.
> Md-11 will lose PHL-CGN (Saturday only) to SDFZ on April 3rd.
> MD-11 will begin all China flying from 747 on July 26th.
> MD-11 will lose DFW turns to 747 on July 26th.
> MD-11 is proposed to fly ONT-DFW-ABQ-ONT from an A300 on September 27th.
>
> The MD-11 began 2004 with 9 operational aircraft and by years end will
> have 13. The MD-11 will probably add as many as 15 lines by years end.
>
> SDFZ
>
> SDFZ will lose SDF-CGN (Sunday only) to a MD-11 on April 3rd.
> SDFZ will add PHL-CGN (Saturday only) from a MD-11 on April 3rd.
> SDFZ will layover in BCN starting November 1st. A300 will add VLC to
> MAD trip.
>
>
>
>
> In closing, 2004 is going to be a realignment/training nightmare. In
> fact with the shrinking and more rapid extinction 727, DC-8 and 747
> flying and fleets, crewmembers will hopefully be able to use this synopsis
> to help them adjust their system bid accordingly. UPS updates their
> synopsis monthly and is driven by the marketplace and can and will change
> on a moments notice. However with that said, UPS has normally stuck
> pretty close to the annual plan and the following changes will most
> likely unfold just as dated or at worst case a bid period later.
> Now for a couple of personal 2005 predictions, I would expect to see
> the remaining 727 from WAW to go to a 757 and possibly add a Russian
> city from WAW. With the proposed 2005 opening of Nagoya, Japan, one
> can expect to see KIX and NRT flights routed to and laying over in Nagoya
> because landing fees will be 50% less. Also, look for possibly
NRT-PVG-NRT
> segment. UPS will also be in the hunt for any and all future routes
> from HKG to anywhere. Dubai-Johannesburg, I hear it anytime I pass
> through DXB gateway so I will add that as my last prediction. In fact,
> I have heard a lot of talk future DXB growth but don?t feel I have enough
> insight to add more DXB flying to the prediction list.
