Jose Whales
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- Joined
- Sep 21, 2003
- Posts
- 9
xjavro85 said:
You obviously need some professionalism manners! When a fellow Aviator is furloughed it is not a joking matter! There are 20 pilots that will be on the street without a job, along with an untold number of customer service agents, and mechanics, some have new born baby's that need formula, doctor visits and Pampers. Are you and your poor since of humor going to step up to the plate and offer to help them out? I think you should since you have not an ounce of professionalism in your bones. Did you see any jokes relayed from Big Sky Pilots about your Furloughs? I think not!
Quote from "Simon Says"
"I believe Masaba MEC gave Big Sky a chance to come onboard with us for a 1 for 1 seniority. Big Sky pilots would take a chance of losing it all for that one for one seniority, but also would work under our contract. We were strung along by the MEC of Big Sky. Masaba pilot group tried to tell them not to believe the lies of management. We were not heard.
Now do you believe us? By the way Scope is a shrinkable issue for Mesaba pilots. Do not believe for one second that we will sign a contract that does not include it. So guess where the remaining Big Sky pilots go on our list. At the bottom."
You’re definitely wrong! I spoke to your MEC and a 1 for 1 was not offered. I want you to tell me in all your infinite wisdom how a workforce that is protected under a collective bargaining agreement for the United Transportation Union (UTU, which by the way is MORE than three times the size of ALPA) can walk away from that agreement and go into an ALPA contract. Then I would like you to tell me if you would do it after ALPA turned your fellow pilot group down TWICE, not once, TWO SEPERATE TIMES!! Knowing full well that it would mean that you and your family would be unemployed in a matter of 2 months! I have a copy of your contract and there are a lot of things that you don’t have that we do. Things like awarded the trip paid for the trip, minimum daily guarantee, Duty Rig, Trip Rig, NO airport reserve. Premium pay, Draft pay, 28 day schedule with a guarantee of 8 days off. Further more we are the highest paid 19 seat turbo prop drivers out there! I would expect to be no where else but on the bottom of your seniority list, such as where you would be if you came here. Why would I go in front of someone else that has been at Masaba, “paying their dues” with respect to the company and their idiosyncrasies.
Quote from "sf3boy"
Wow, that was a lot man. Hope you feel a little better now. Were you a Lone Star guy? Aspen Air? Or were you one of the stellar Big Sky originals?
Again a lack of professionalism and knowledge on your behalf. The "...stellar Big Sky originals..." that you refer to are flying Metro III's and Metro 23's. Either aircraft would most likely eat you for lunch! Ask any former Metro Pilot, you might have to go to some of the major airlines and seek out the upper management. They know that it takes a real "stick and rudder" pilot to fly them. We hand fly these with no auto pilot at night around towering rock piles, slinging ice, in and out of class B, NDB approaches ILS’s to minimums, etc. And with the junior FO at Big Sky having over 2000 hours in the thing I'm sure you could learn a thing or two from him. Auto pilots and Flight director usage can be obtained in a book. Flying skills cannot! The Majors understand that, unfortunately you do not. It also is apparent that you have done nothing but fly at Mesaba, have you even done anything to pay your dues in the aviation business? Most likely the answer to that is NO! This is probably your first airline job, you have no other experience to speak from, you most likely went from flight instructor to FO at a Regional and now you think your a GOD and knowledge of how airlines are run.
The unprofessional that each and every one of you show to fellow Pilots is sickening! You should all take a step back and realize that it can happen to ANY ONE OF YOU!! You all should realize now that the Airline Industry is WAY TO SMALL of a world to be making selfish comments like these! You never know if the guy sitting to your right today could be the person that interviews you for a job tomorrow!
Jose Whales
