UNLIMITED RJ's!!!

[Hamfighter]

How about we allow unlimited 76-seat planes...flown by DELTA pilots. Not enough DELTA pilots to fly hundreds of LARGE RJs? Perhaps we could hire hundreds of DCI pilots.

For once, quit diluting and DISOLVING Delta Air Lines.

 

[Hamfighter]

Apparently, the public loves RJs, and there must be vast profits to be made by half of Delta being outsourced to fly them. So be it. Sell every Boing and Airbus we have and replace them all with Canadairs and Embraers. That's fine, as long as it is DELTA AIR LINES.

Maybe it's the marketing degree, but I hate brand FRAGMENTATION. And so does the public. Someone tell me one positive thing a customer has said about DCI. In seven years flying for a regional, I never heard a single passenger tell me they were glad to be outsourced to an RJ (or prop).

 

[Hamfighter]

"When you go on a regional airline, you're not achieving the same level of safety that we have at the major airlines," Sullenberger said. "At the regionals, you don't have the same robust safety system in which we operate that you do with the large major airlines. So we still have not, in spite of our best efforts, achieved what we call 'one level of safety.' They're simply not the same."

Chelsey Sullenberger


I don't know if that's true. That's not the point. The public perceives outsourced regional carriers to be inferior.

 

[Hamfighter]

This is not RJ, RJ pilot or regional bashing. I've been there. This is not "us against them" (I want us to hire every one of "them"). This is an effort to save DELTA AIR LINES at the expense of dozens of multi-millionaire managers who stand to profit by the fragmentation and degradation of Delta Air Lines over the next 20 years, or however long it lasts.

 

[Hamfighter]

And again, I understand that this contact proposal actually decreases the overall number of RJs. Hip-hip-hooray...that's great! But, understand that you are allowing DELTA AIR LINES to purchase more planes for NON-DELTA PILOTS.

 

[Hamfighter]

Maybe that's the best, most economical plan. Wide-bodies and RJs. I am ok with that, if it's profitable and a unified DELTA.

 

[Freebrd]

no offense but do you always write and answer your own thread? maybe you could get JennyLeigh in on this too!

 

[JustaNumber]

Someone tell me one positive thing a customer has said about DCI. In seven years flying for a regional, I never heard a single passenger tell me they were glad to be outsourced to an RJ (or prop).

Actually, every single passenger you flew told you--by purchasing that cheaper ticket on an RJ--that they were okay with the situation. It's like everything else the pax whine about, they never indicate that any of it is really important when it comes to buying the cheapest ticket. And that's why there are so many RJs (plus the fact that ALPA signed off on the outsourcing to begin with).

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

How about we allow unlimited 76-seat planes...flown by DELTA pilots. Not enough DELTA pilots to fly hundreds of LARGE RJs? Perhaps we could hire hundreds of DCI pilots.

For once, quit diluting and DISOLVING Delta Air Lines.

Hamfighter, The title of your thread was deceiving, I thought it was the punchline of a joke...AS in "What do you call a 1000 RJ's at the bottom of the ocean?" "A good start"

BTW, ALPA will not sacrifice other ALPA jobs at the expense of another. Ie, they look at more RJ's as more union jobs. There are other guys on here that can explain this but I know of a particular example where ALPA would not sign on one commuters deal for more RJ's because it was gonna cut a different commuter's RJ fleet!

Good Luck,
KBB

 

[Hamfighter]

KBB, I don't want to sacrifice anyone's job. I'd like everyone to work for the major airline they are feeding.
I guess that's not entirely true...I would sacrifice the tens of millions paid to a few executive jobs at each of a dozen dci carriers.

 

[wms]

"When you go on a regional airline, you're not achieving the same level of safety that we have at the major airlines," Sullenberger said. "At the regionals, you don't have the same robust safety system in which we operate that you do with the large major airlines. So we still have not, in spite of our best efforts, achieved what we call 'one level of safety.' They're simply not the same."

Chelsey Sullenberger


I don't know if that's true. That's not the point. The public perceives outsourced regional carriers to be inferior.

That's not true, it's part of sully and skiles attempt to scare the public and exploit an accident for their own economic agenda. I agree with the agenda of improving our profession, but not the shameless fear-mongering they are conducting. Especially when skiles chose the commuter route himself and now bashes it ( there's a name for people like that) and sully has no clue.

That said, I agree that ALL flying under a brand should be by the pilots of that brand, and expansion should be within and not farmed out. It kills all of our careers and movement when one sector of the industry is used to keep costs down at the expense of the employees rather than pass those costs on to the public.

 

[SpaceShipEarth]

if all the RJs were at mainline then it wouldn't be the inexperienced pilots at the regionals that are dangerous, it would be the inexperienced pilots flying RJs at mainline that are dangerous.

 

[CptMurf]

"When you go on a regional airline, you're not achieving the same level of safety that we have at the major airlines," Sullenberger said. "At the regionals, you don't have the same robust safety system in which we operate that you do with the large major airlines. So we still have not, in spite of our best efforts, achieved what we call 'one level of safety.' They're simply not the same."

Chelsey Sullenberger

Says the pilot that never flew for a regional airline