UAL losses $111m from regional feed

[FDJ2]

AWST 5/10/04 p 15:

"United Airlines, which has restructured its marketing
agreements with all its United Express regional
affiliates except Atlantic Coast Airlines, reduced its
overall losses during the first quarter but wound up
deeper in red ink for regional service. United shifted
Air Wisconsin, Mesa, SkyWest and Trans States to
what it terms "market-based"
fixed-rate-and-capital-reimbursement deals during
the second half of 2003, and Chautauqua, Republic
and Shuttle America followed during the winter. The
restructured contracts lost $81 million in this year's
first quarter as ACA's fee-per-departure deal went $30
million in the red, for a totla of $111 million. United
will transition June 3-Aug 4 from ACA to six regionals
- all but Trans States - for feed at Chicago O'Hare and
Washington Dulles airports."

 

[I.P. Freley]

Amazed... Amazed, I am, that Shuttle America helped UAL lose money in the first quarter of this year.

I am more amazed to learn that we started UAL Express flying over the winter. I mean... We just painted up the first airplane for them a little over a month ago. Perhaps our paint job(s) cost them money?

 

[platinumclub]

NO!!!!

IP your avatar still really scares me!!

 

[buster232]

Any ideas as to why TSA didn't get more UEX flights?

 

[waterski]

We have received 12 Emb already and have another 13 coming
starting june.. Knowing are fearless leader Iam sure thats all
he wants..Hope this helps

 

[J32driver]

"United will transition June 3-Aug 4 from ACA to six regionals
- all but Trans States - for feed at Chicago O'Hare and
Washington Dulles airports."


Anyone have any idea exactly what "-all but Trans States-" means?

 

[Reebo]

Anyone have any idea exactly what "-all but Trans States-" means? [/B][/QUOTE]




not sure,we just picked up another emb-145 yesterday in new ua colors.

 

[I.P. Freley]

I think it means that TransStates is already one of the feeds, and therefore won't be "transitioned to"....???

Who knows? Clearly not the writer, because Shuttle America most definitely did NOT start flying for United "over the winter". They may have "shifted" to us, but the article definitely insinuates that we started flying for them already.

Speaking of avatars, J32's cracks me up!

 

[Weasel Keeper]

Hard to fly for them over the winter when the first full UEX painted Saab (19XS) arrived a day ago.

Plus everyone knows Xtra Special doesn't like the cold.

 

[dispatchguy]

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/578548/L/

First SF34 in the full UAX color scheme...

 

[Propsync]

Saw one without the UX lettering in CLE on Tues. No offense, it's not a great paint scheme. Is this the 'New' TED colors, or is UAL just changing to these new schemes like NWA did to get with the DTW gangsta rap roots?

 

[I.P. Freley]

That ain't TED

That's the new UAL corporate paint scheme. Somewhere around here I have a pic of a 777 painted up in the same scheme.

I don't disagree with you, though. I preferred the OLD scheme.

Then again, I dislike the new NWA paint just as much.

 

[DenverDude2002]

The new UA paintjob looks TERRIBLE on that Saab 340.

Still cant figure out with NWA was going for, that pearl is just plain awful. Maybe they we're trying to give the planes a more feminine touch to attract female flyers

 

[reject007]

The new pearl scheme appeals to the ever so modern, yet rapidly growing, metrosexual market. Straight people with a gay person's fashion sense. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

 

[Capt. Over]

Blue racing stripes are cool.....

I think. All our new 145's are coming in the new livery and I think it looks **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** nice on the taco rocket.....not so nice on the bigger metal. We're getting a bunch more planes for UEX here at TSA and our United flying is taking off....no pun intended. I think we'll continue to get quite a bit more as time goes on.

 

[j41driver]

I am more amazed to learn that we started UAL Express flying over the winter.

It says that you got a UEx deal over the winter. Is that not correct? Nowhere does it say you have started flying UEx yet.

 

[crashpad]

I think the new paint scheme is awesome, but it won't put bodies in seats. What is UALs' strategy and how do the feeders figure into the big picture?