UAL Jets4Jobs

[RUhiring?]

"In the new J4J proposal, U pilots will not be pay protected at first year Captain rates"

FYI...none of the J4J carriers are pay protecting the U furloughees at first year captain rates. That was a provision in the original J4J program negotiated between the U pilots and U Management. However, in the second restructuring, the U MEC removed that provision. So the Express Carriers are not even being asked to accomodate this.

 

[CHQ Pilot]

CHQ pilots voted the first time on the orginal agreement. The pilots were always open to voting on the restructured agreement, but we not offered the chance. My orginal point of the differences was to point out that we were not essentially taking what we voted on the first time. There has been some confusion that we signed off on J4Js in its orginial form. As far as pay protection, the only line about pay for the U pilots came from the original agreement (LOA 81). I have not see anything in LOA 83 that addresses pay, so it has been a little ambigious to how the pay situation would be. If there is an Attachment that states this, then it was never made obvious to the CHQ pilots.

 

[RUhiring?]

It's a shame you had to vote with such limited information. From what I understand, the U pilots now in class with Mesa and Midway are being paid first year captain rates if they were hired to be captains. The pilots hired as FO's are being paid top scale FO rate (13 year, 15 year, or whatever year each contract tops out). If there is someone on this board that is actually in class, perhaps the could confirm or deny this.
In both cases however, their seniority date is the date that they start class with the respective Express carrier.

 

[Brother Francis]

http://www.afausairways.org/Restructure/alpa_ta.htm

ALPA TA Agreement

Attachment A
Revisions to Restructuring Agreement

EFFECTIVE DATE: January 1, 2003

ASSUMPTION: The ALPA Revisions to the Restructuring Agreement as set forth in this Attachment A shall only continue in effect if US Airways Group and the Company, as Debtors in Possession, provide for the assumption of the Agreement as modified by the Restructuring Agreement and by this Attachment A in any plan of reorganization, blah, blah, blah...

JETS FOR JOBS RATES: The Company may implement the following changes to rates of pay for MidAtlantic (“MDA”) and for Jets for Jobs with Participating Wholly Owned Carriers and Participating Affiliates:

1. Non MDA Jets for Jobs rates of pay

a. Captains paid in accordance with the applicable contract with longevity under that contract; no longevity credit for prior US Airways service

b. First Officer rates pay top of scale under applicable contract

2. MDA rates of pay for US Airways pilots

a. Captains paid in accordance with MDA contract blah, blah, blah, blah, blah