UAL contract benefits over CAL

[densoo]

This in itself will limit open time pickup and might bring some furloughs back. No more 99-hour months, month after month:

3-B-7 Minimum Guarantee. for a B747-400, B777 or B767/757 pilot, any pay credit which exceeds eighty-nine (89) hours in any month shall not be paid, but shall be placed in a “bank”....

3-I Bank. If, in any given month, a B747-400, B777 or B767/757 pilot acquires pay credit in excess of eight-nine (89) pay credit hours, ....any bank balance available as of the last day of that month will be used to increase the pilot’s pay up to eighty-nine (89) hours.....3-I-4 Pilots will be required to reduce excess bank time accumulation by dropping trips, or reserve availability days, from their schedules.

Extra pay for more challenging flying. What a concept:

3-B-5-b International Hourly Override. $7 CA, $5 FO

3-B-10-a-(1) Incentive pay for late night trips will be calculated based on the scheduled flight time of the trip between the hours of 2300 and 0659 home domicile time. The amount of incentive pay will be $11.14 for Captains and $7.44 for First Officers for each qualifying hour.

You mean there is such a thing as more than FAR min rest?

3-B-10-b Operational Integrity. If crew agrees to minimum rest at layover in order to make an on time departure they will receive 5 hours of incentive pay.

Five hours for an RX day?

3-E-2 a pilot may restore his salary by agreeing to stand by as a reserve on a day suggested by the Company. ... shall be restored salary at the rate of five hours (5) per standby day or the number of credit hours actually performed, if greater.

You mean you can't just whiplash reserves with impunity? Scheduling will have to think before they call or else it'll cost 2 hours pay credit

3-J When a pilot at his home domicile is called to the airport to fly a scheduled flight or to deadhead to protect a scheduled flight, and he does not fly or the pay credit value of the assignment, as performed, is less than two (2) hours, he shall nonetheless be credited with 2 hours of pay credit.

 

[Ex737Driver]

You are of course assumimg that either contract will remain. Look for an offer from the company for a new CBA pretty fast if what has been leaking is true.

 

[densoo]

You are of course assumimg that either contract will remain. Look for an offer from the company for a new CBA pretty fast if what has been leaking is true.

I'm saying that Jeff has got a big surprise coming if he thinks he's going to get the UAL pilots to work under a bare-bones, FAR min, quality of life killer contract that CAL has. Except for scope, this UAL contract is light years ahead of CAL's, even though it was concessionary in every way after three years of bankruptcy.

 

[Jetjockey]

Usually stuff that "leaks" out.......................stinks really bad.

 

[Ex737Driver]

Usually stuff that "leaks" out.......................stinks really bad.

Depends upon who is leaking it.

 

[thor2j]

I'm saying that Jeff has got a big surprise coming if he thinks he's going to get the UAL pilots to work under a bare-bones, FAR min, quality of life killer contract that CAL has. Except for scope, this UAL contract is light years ahead of CAL's, even though it was concessionary in every way after three years of bankruptcy.

You are right, CAL contract sux, but b4 u say light years ahead check with the DAL guys. When we were offered the DAL+ they analyzed it and it was marginal at best. Many things worse then CALs. UALs work rules are much better, but pay is terrible. Hopefully we will all work together to get what we deserve an industry leading contract.

 

[densoo]

You are right, CAL contract sux, but b4 u say light years ahead check with the DAL guys. When we were offered the DAL+ they analyzed it and it was marginal at best. Many things worse then CALs. UALs work rules are much better, but pay is terrible. Hopefully we will all work together to get what we deserve an industry leading contract.

There are a lot of things in the UAL contract that look good. Take the best of both contracts and add a lot on the wage page and maybe it will work.

 

[COpilot]

Jeff, and Glenn can approach this one of two ways; then can run a first class operation and do what Anderson did with DL/NW, or they can do it the inefficient low class way like HP/US.

I doubt we will have to wait long until we see signs of what type of managerial style they are going to use.

Either way as CO pilots, as UA pilots we need to shake hands, work past the history and realize that like it or not, we're now on the same team when it comes to the mutual contract going forward.

 

[HHH]

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either way as co pilots, as ua pilots we need to shake hands, work past the history and realize that like it or not, we're now on the same team when it comes to the mutual contract going forward.

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[Yuppyguppy]

for what it's worth I talked to council 12 ORD rep and was told a combined contract assuming UAL work rules would add about 1000 pilots and all furloughs would be back much soon er than later both CAL and UAL. BOTH sides must stand firm to get us back in the right direction...take no $hi@ from management.