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Pilots spat endangers US Airway's recovery
Hard-liners replace two on union bargaining team
Tuesday, April 13, 2004

By Dan Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



A tug of war within the pilots union is threatening to derail US Airways' detente with its most influential workers group and is endangering the airline's recovery plan.

"It's bad," New York airline analyst Ray Neidl, who covers US Airways, said yesterday. "I think the pilots have moved one step closer to being unemployed."

An angry faction of pilots ousted two members of the union's bargaining team Friday and replaced them with negotiators willing to take a tougher bargaining stance with the company.

The change was made by four union leaders from Pittsburgh and Philadelphia who have been arguing that rank-and-file pilots want "change" and that union negotiators have been in power too long and have made too many concessions to US Airways.

The new chairman of the negotiating committee, Doug Mowery, is a former union leader from Philadelphia who tried unsuccessfully last month to replace union chairman Bill Pollock.

The change comes only weeks before the company is expected to approach the pilots about wide-ranging concessionary talks.

US Airways Chief Executive Officer David Siegel, who has said he needs to cut $1.5 billion from the carrier's expenses this year if US Airways is to survive, wants labor negotiations to begin this month and new labor agreements in place this summer.

Analysts said yesterday that the pilots might have made a bad decision. The airline needs "flexibility" and "cost cuts," Neidl said. "They don't have a lot of time. They have got to get cost structure down pretty quickly."

The pilots thus far are the only group that has agreed to discuss its contract with management, so their internal struggles represent a "setback," said local airline observer Bill Lauer. "I can see lots of things beginning to unravel if something can't be done with the unions in a reasonable amount of time."

The resistance of some union members appeared to stiffen Friday following reports that put Siegel's 2003 compensation in the $8 million to $9 million range and even higher.

But the vast majority of that amount represented stock options that have no value because of the stock's low price -- it closed yesterday at $3.89, almost half the level necessary to trigger the stock options -- and restricted stock that won't start vesting until January.

Siegel's cash compensation for 2003 was $698,890, including a base salary of $600,000.

In an open letter to US Airways employees yesterday, Chairman David Bronner argued that Siegel's pay package was less than what many airline CEOs made last year and less than what Siegel was originally offered to work at US Airways in 2002.

Defending Siegel, Bronner pointed out that the unions have four seats on US Airways' board and thus share responsibility for approving Siegel's pay package. What's more, Bronner argued, is that Siegel had "preserved almost 30,000 jobs" since spring 2002 and defied the experts predicting US Airways' demise.

"We are still here, and we don't have any intention of going away. But we must deal with the changing economics of the airline industry," Bronner said.


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(Dan Fitzpatrick can be reached at [email protected] or 412-263-1752
 
"And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom
cannot stand. And if a house be divided against itself, that
house cannot stand. And if Satan rise up against himself,
and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end."
Mark 3:24-26, KJV
 
Does anyone believe that another round of paycuts is all they need or is even going to do anything but prolong the slow bleeding to death? What would you choose- more money for a shorter amount of time or considerably less to last a few more months? Without a real plan they are toast and I think the union wants to force some sort of reasonable plan and/ or a new leader who can come up with a plan that is at least partially believable before giving away more pay for nothing.
 
All the U employees have given twice, nothing changed. Well, the red numbers got slightly smaller, but nothing seems to have been done on the revenue side. The days of the biz traveller paying through the nose is gone, at least for now.

Eagle is essentially running a shuttle out of LGA, Acela seems to be getting a lot of biz after 9/11 and the hassle of security. SWA took over BWI and is now moving into PHL.

Not sure what can be done, other than ask for another round of concessions, but then again, without any kind of plan, if I were there, I am not sure I would give again. The pilots have the most to gain, due to their "higher" wages, but apparently, they want something in return. Cannot say I blame them.

The mechanics have seen their contract violated, even after repeated promises, that work would not be outsourced.

If U survives, it will be as a shell of it's former self. Perhaps as a large RJ operator it will be viable.

If you want to be discouraged, locate the video presentation from Siegel, where he tries to rally he troops, even he does not look convinced that a turnaround an happen:(
 
Siegel has said that he needs the CASM to come down from 10 cents to 6 cents. A while back the pilots figured that if they worked for free it only brought the CASM down by less than 2 cents. Not sure of the figures these days but coming after labor for the cost savings time after time isn't going to work. Management needs to INCREASE REVENUE.

Typhoonpilot
 
after what those LIAR management persons did to the pilots pension plans there should be no surprise as to what is happening now. they stole already earned retirement money from the pilots...i am disgusted at that action. it really was morally wrong what they did.
 
That is correct, but might be tough with Southwest coming in and lowering all the fares at one of their major hubs. As far as being a viable RJ outfit, that won't bring in enough revenue with that many seats.
 
Well, with the EMB-170 coming on at Eagle pay, I think they could well end up being a good east coast feeder, sure DAL, UAL or someone else could be interested.
 
Disel8,

To feed what hub? I doubt that would ever happen, and I wonder what will happen when Southwest gets entrenched up there in PHL.......Will that be good for Jetblue and Song? Won't they get 47 more 737-700s this year alone??? That is amazing.

Bye Bye--General Lee:rolleyes:
 
ILStoMinimums said:
I give Airways 6 months to go.........

6 months may be generous. Although I sincerely hope they pull out of this mess, it seems the only thing they are doing successfully is rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.
 
I am glad the pilots did what they did. It is about time someone stepped up and drew a hard line in the sand. Stand unity stand strong.

What has happened to a once noble and honorable profession?? Instead of DAL, AA, UAL and other backing up to what the LLC are paying their pilots why doesn't JetBlue or SWA grow some kahoonas and demand better pay?? I know JetBlue is a little more than a startup now but what is SWA's excuse?? We are becoming nothing more than glorified truck drivers.
 
PurpleTail - are you sure about SWA pay being so bad? I understand they are working hard, but as we say on the street, they are getting "crazy paid." I could be wrong but I think if you compare their 737 wages against the industry you'll see SWA is doing prety good.

Good luck to the Airways pilots - I hope you can make it!
 
We are doing alright. We have a 13.6 % raise coming 09/01/04. So maybe by then we can get some respect.

At least at Fed Ex and SWA we don't have to run to the bank to cash our checks. (there are many others too..) That was my goal for my job search, just keep the paycheck coming.
 
typhoonpilot said:
Not sure of the figures these days but coming after labor for the cost savings time after time isn't going to work. Management needs to INCREASE REVENUE.

Typhoonpilot

Every legacy carrier is facing this exact problem these days. It'll will not be fixed unless they can get their operating cost in line. The most efficent legacy carrier in the business(Continental Airlines) is even having a hard time and are expected to post a loss this quarter. With the extremly high fuel cost as well as the high tax burden, the airlines are doomed. Taxes on an averege airline ticket is approximently 40% of the cost that a pax pays for. In the past it's been more like 18%. Until the taxes and the fuel cost decrease, the legacy carriers will bleed red.
 
Typical pilot: when there is a problem, we always know what is best, we have the answer, and sitting in the driver seat is always better than sitting pax when the ship is headed down.

It is too bad, but I don't think it really matters whose running negotiations for the union; it's too little too late.
 
Drivers

It is so much easier to draw that line in the sand when it is not your job at risk.

The fact is that Fedex is not even in the same business as the other companies referred to. As more and more email and less and less packages are physically shipped, this is a business that could take it on the chin and have its own version of economic turmoil.

While I respect the profession and the skills, what you call a glorified driver is exactly what you are. You are paid to drive a sophisticated machine from point to point. You are not asked to be responsible for generation of revenue, keeping costs in line, or generating the profits.

This hold the line is mostly bull because the nature of the business changes.
 
Re: Drivers

Publishers said:
While I respect the profession and the skills, what you call a glorified driver is exactly what you are. You are paid to drive a sophisticated machine from point to point.
Go ahead and tell this to Al Haynes. :rolleyes:

LAXSaabdude.
 

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