Typical schedule at FlexJet

[911lil]

Just wondering if anyone could give me the skinny on a typical schedule at FlexJet. I understand that they do not have the 7 and 7.

Any more info on hiring and benefits would be helpful too.
Thanks

 

[GCAP]

The schedule varies---essentially 15 or 16 out of a 28 day bid period. 5 on 4 off-- 6 on 4 off 5 on 4 off. Recent letter from the CP said they expect to hire 100 this year. Pretty good benefits; health, dental, life ins. and vision. A 401 and a small defined benefit. All in all a very god place to hang your hat. Excellent airplanes and very good training. Also, a very good group of professional pilots.

 

[Proximity]

How many pilots are they up to now?

 

[el raton]

250 more than NJ

 

[Pugnacious G]

250 more than NJ

Allrighty then.....

 

[doylehargraves]

Pretty good benefits; health, dental, life ins. and vision.

Ok. Don't even get us started on this subject! The benefits are really the one thing that everyone dislikes at flex. I really wish they would change our insurance to something better or at least pay for it. Everything else is ok at flex.

Your schedule can be 16,15, or 14 day line out of 28. Within that, you can get can lets say a 15 day line might be: 6/5 5/4 4/4. Or it can be as crazy as a 14 day line like this: 4/8 5/3 5/3. or you could get lucky on a 14 day line and get 7/7 7/7. It is "possible" to get a 7/7 if the stars line up for you.

 

[ozpilot]

250 more than NJ

Righttttt.....

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

What is Raton smoking? Somebody get him a cup to pee in.

My schedule for two cycles at FJ is 3 on/ 4 off/ 6 on/ 6 off/ 6 on/ 3 off/ 2 trng / 4 on/ 9 off!/ 4 on/ 3 off/ 6 on. So there's 56 days at FJ. As you see, it's feast and famine. I find it very interesting.

 

[saabservant]

Hey guys, thanks for the scheduling info...
Are your 4,5,6 day trips continuous out of domicile, or are there any 1,2,3 day trips within a stretch.
Also, which are the junior bases?
I see airline pilot central .com shows about a two-year upgrade; I imagine this will change as the bigger airlines resume hiring. Is that reasonable?
No interview yet, just a notice to update my profile...
Thanks again!

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

Hey Saab, usually 6 means turn the water heater off and say goodbye to your Temperpedic mattress until the end. Occasionally, you'll luck out and have an overnight in the domicile, but only because that's where a mid-week trip happens to end. (I got maybe 4 of those in the 1 1/2 yr that I've been here).

We don't really have senior/junior domiciles. They ship you where they want you, regardless. Most of us are based at DFW, and plenty in FLL. I don't know where you live, but it'd probably be a plus if you wanted NY/NJ. (That would be the closest thing to a "junior domicile" but again, it doesn't really apply here.)

Assuming that your profile is accurate (no jet time) you'll want two years in the right seat (unless you're John Glenn, or something). There are a lot of new airports, company procedures, and equipment that you want to master. (Remember that as Captain, not only are you responsible for your own mistakes, but also the mistakes of the schmuck sitting in the right seat. Enjoy being the schmuck for a while). Two years is probably just right.

 

[NERVOUS]

Is there anything resembling a more senior airplane for new-hires? Lear vs. CL?

What about Int'l flying? on say the Lears versus the CL?

 

[johnsonrod]

When are the Lear 60XRs and the challenger 605s arriving on the line? Will the current Lear 60 and 604 pilots transition into those new aircraft as they arrive? Will those new aircraft supplement current aircraft or just replace older airframes?

 

[saabservant]

ED: Thanks again. Love the picture of Moss- a class athlete if there ever was one....

 

[Proximity]

They ship you where they want you, regardless. Most of us are based at DFW, and plenty in FLL. I don't know where you live, but it'd probably be a plus if you wanted NY/NJ. (That would be the closest thing to a "junior domicile" but again, it doesn't really apply here.)

That's not exactly correct. As a new hire you will select any of the four domiciles. They don't "ship you" anywhere. You also get $4000 moving bonus if you don't already live in a base. After one year with the company you may change your domicile, unlike the current system at NetJets where your domicile is effectively permanent. Seniority does not come into play.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

By "ship you where they want you," I was referring to rotations. If your plane is in DEN, they will ship you there from DFW/LGA/FLL/ONT wherever you happen to be. There is no seniority in that process. Sorry for the confusion.

I don't know about his class, but yes Randy Moss, in purple, was an awesome athlete.

 

[skiandsurf]

After one year with the company you may change your domicile, unlike the current system at NetJets where your domicile is effectively permanent. Seniority does not come into play.

At NJs you can change domiciles.

 

[Proximity]

You are right, I didn't know about the LOA from last summer.

The domicile situation was a big factor in my choice of not going with NetJets at the time.

 

[doylehargraves]

Is there anything resembling a more senior airplane for new-hires? Lear vs. CL?

What about Int'l flying? on say the Lears versus the CL?

They put you in whatever plane they need people in at that time. Lately its all been 300 and 604 but now, there is a shortage in the 45. You will definitely work more in the 45 fleet. By "more", I mean more legs per day. A challenger might do a dallas-morristown-vegas in a day; Where a 45 might do atlanta-baton rouge-st louis-chicago-nashville-palm beach in a day. Some of you 300 folks might tap in here with more examples but, doing multiple legs in the 45 is WAAY more exhausting in the 45 than it is in a 300 or 604 and, that is the point I'm trying to make. Word right now is that they are hiring 100 pilots which would put us at 450 if no one quits. I think we've lost alot of f/o's since the big hiring spree last february.

 

[gunfyter]

Word right now is that they are hiring 100 pilots which would put us at 450 if no one quits. I think we've lost alot of f/o's since the big hiring spree last february.

What does that mean?

 

[skiandsurf]

What does that mean?

I think NJs is the company that "loses" FOs. I know of guys that after being hired and trained, they are "lost" at home for upwards of 6 months (or more).

But back to Flexjet and guys quiting, what about the training contract? Does the company pursue it?