viperdriver
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Not trying to be a D!ck but...........Your profile shows that you have an ATP. That means you are supposed to know what airplanes require a type and what does not.viperdriver said:Also on other applications it asks for aircraft and if a type rating is required for that aircraft. When is it required? Is it required on an Air Force 737?
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Viperdriver
What about N816NA ?SkiHerkDrvr said:.... Since a civilian version of the F-16 does not exist, a type rating is not available even though it is clearly a jet and clearly exceeds 12,500 pounds......
KeroseneSnorter said:Not trying to be a D!ck but...........Your profile shows that you have an ATP. That means you are supposed to know what airplanes require a type and what does not.
I know you have probably only flown military, but if you really didn't know, you really need to start boning up on the FAR's before you get an interview or they will roast you.
hawg2hawk said:You might not be trying, but you're certainly succeeding.
KeroseneSnorter said:The single seat guys are the ones that have the least skills that directly transfer to airline flying. They are trained for tactical ops, and are excellent at what they do, but from a practical standpoint the tanker pilot has the better experience for the airlines.
TonyC said:Better experience? Better experience for WHAT? Walking to the back to heat up the meals?
Being a tanker pilot in no way gives an advantage so far as knowledge of the FARs, the subject at hand.
Perhaps you should stick to what YOU know.
Give the guy a break - - he asked an honest question.
KeroseneSnorter said:Your quote takes what I said out of context, Wasn't referring to a tanker guy being better at FAR's.
TonyC said:I don't think I took it out of context at all. Perhaps you don't realize what you said.
You said, "The single seat guys are the ones that have the least skills that directly transfer to airline flying." Further, you said, "...from a practical standpoint the tanker pilot has the better experience for the airlines." This concluded a paragraph that discussed FAR knowledge required to successfully pass your hiring board where many of the "military guys ... got shot down ... due to their lack of FAR knowledge." Now the truth might rightly lie in the next sentence - - "You could tell the ones that boned up on the civilian side and made an effort to know them even though they didn't fly under them" [emp. added] - - but you did not rest your argument at that point. Study made the difference, not the background.
For what it's worth, I was not asked a single question about FAR's during my interview.
The simple answer to viperdriver is this: pull out that certificate you got from the FAA, turn it over. Read the type ratings you have under Item XII. Since you're asking the question, the likely answer is none. If you had one, you'd likely know the answer already.
All the discussion about what kinds of airplanes you could have gotten a type with in the military is interesting, but not useful in answering your question.
As for your last question, "Is it required on an Air Force 737?", the answer is no. You COULD have gotten a type rating on the 737, but one is NOT required to fly any Air Force airplane.
OH, and KeroseneSnorter - - I HAVE spent time in the training department. The single element that contributes most to success is not background, age, or gender - - it's EFFORT!
KeroseneSnorter said:O.K. You have been beating the crap out of me because I suggested that he may need to study up on his FAR's.
So I will ask the $64 question.
Given the stated facts:
1. He does not know if he holds a type rating or not.
2. He has no idea what airplanes require a type rating.
Who issued him his ATP?
Why was he issued an ATP when he clearly does not know even the most basic things like "What am I legal to fly?"
How many other "pesky civilian regs" does he not have a clue about?
He is applying to become a part 121 airline pilot, but he is having trouble even filling out the application due to his lack of civilian aviation knowledge. Am I the only one that thinks maybe this is a problem that should be addressed?
KeroseneSnorter said:Oh, and you still left out the part about some single engine drivers thinking that they should automatically get the position, when you quoted me. That is where the tanker driver comparison came in. Maybe my train of thought and the words didn't quite match up.
So to end your confusion, My thought was meant to imply that the few single seaters that expect to be hired because they flew fighters, actually have less directly transferrable skills than the tanker guys do who have been flying airline equipment already.
TonyC said:There are heavy drivers that leave the service with an ATP and ask (or at least HAVE) the very same questions. I've talked to guys that got their ATPs and were surprised to find they were also awarded a type rating for the 707 and 720. Do you think any of them even know what a 720 IS?
KeroseneSnorter said:......how in the world is he going to everdecipher part 121 duty day regs. and required rest information if hecan't figure out where to look for the type ratings on his certificate?