Type Question

[FoxJet]

Ok, here is the situation. I have a G200 type, with my last recurrent in March of '06. Since then I've had 6 month recurrents in the BeechJet and the Excel.
Question, with 3 TO/LNDings am I current, Part 91, in the G200?
Any reference to FAR's with answer would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Wiggums]

The reg you need to look at is 61.57. The likely answer is no because for typed rated aircraft your landings need to be in type to count for currency. There are alternate requirements for two pilot turbine aircraft but even they require landings in type within the last six months.

 

[FoxJet]

Thanks

The reg you need to look at is 61.57. The likely answer is no because for typed rated aircraft your landings need to be in type to count for currency. There are alternate requirements for two pilot turbine aircraft but even they require landings in type within the last six months.

I completely agree with you on 61.57, Part 91 aviation often surprises me. You'd think some sort of recurrent would be required. But your right as I see it 3 TO/LNDings and your good to go. I guess we should all just police ourselves. Stick to SIC review your SOP's and Memory Items, then get your 3 bounces and away you go. I've got plenty of time in the G200 and am still very comfortable with the aircraft. Its just surprising that's all it takes.
Thanks for the reply though its appreciated.
Later on-

 

[Hugh Johnson]

61.58 Pilot-in-command proficiency check: Operation of aircraft requiring more than one pilot flight crewmember. top
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, to serve as pilot in command of an aircraft that is type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember, a person must—
(1) Within the preceding 12 calendar months, complete a pilot-in-command proficiency check in an aircraft that is type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember; and
(2) Within the preceding 24 calendar months, complete a pilot-in-command proficiency check in the particular type of aircraft in which that person will serve as pilot in command.

Seems to me you are OK until March 2008.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

In the G200 that is.

 

[bizjet800]

To act as PIC:

Three take offs and landings in the G-200 within the last 90 days puts you in compliance with 61.57. Your proficiency check under two years ago in the G-200; AND your proficiency check in any aircraft requiring more than one pilot within the last 12 months puts you in compliance with 61.58. Be sure to document everything!

What I never realized before is that you only need three take-offs and landings in the previous 12 months to act as SIC.

 

[puddlejumper]

What I never realized before is that you only need three take-offs and landings in the previous 12 months to act as SIC.

Not exactly. 61.55 requires that you perform and log engine-out procedures and maneuvering with an engine out while executing the duties of pilot in command; and Crew resource management training as well as the three take offs and landings.

§ 61.55 Second-in-command qualifications...(b) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, no person may serve as a second-in-command of an aircraft type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or in operations requiring a second-in-command unless that person has within the previous 12 calendar months:
(1) Become familiar with the following information for the specific type aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested—
(i) Operational procedures applicable to the powerplant, equipment, and systems.
(ii) Performance specifications and limitations.
(iii) Normal, abnormal, and emergency operating procedures.
(iv) Flight manual.
(v) Placards and markings.
(2) Except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section, performed and logged pilot time in the type of aircraft or in a flight simulator that represents the type of aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested, which includes—
(i) Three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop as the sole manipulator of the flight controls;
(ii) Engine-out procedures and maneuvering with an engine out while executing the duties of pilot in command; and
(iii) Crew resource management training.
(c) If a person complies with the requirements in paragraph (b) of this section in the calendar month before or the calendar month after the month in which compliance with this section is required, then that person is considered to have accomplished the training and practice in the month it is due.

PJ

 

[bizjet800]

I sit corrected!