TSA Flight Training Rule? huh?

[minitour]

Okay, so I enrolled in the school September 3rd...
Enrolled in the Commercial SE Program on November 4th
I have a "stage check" Monday.

1. Do I have to provide a birth certificate for the "stage check"?
I'm thinking no since it's not really "instruction" for a rating or license...it's more of a proficiency thing (which is exempt, correct?).

2. Will I need to provide my commercial instructor a birth certificate for my flight on Tuesday?
I'm thinking yes since I didn't enroll in the training program (Commercial SE) before October 20th.

I have absolutely no idea how this works...eh help?

-mini

 

[JB74]

The way I read it, yes. Check out AOPA's site, it has some good info.
http://www.aopa.org/tsa_rule/

 

[midlifeflyer]

Different schools and instructors are treating it differently. The interpretive letter about "instruction" vs "proficiency checks" reflects even less understanding about flight training than the original rule.

Note that it =doesn't= say that you don't have to comply if the instructional session is "instruction for" a certificate or rating. It says that covered flight training is instruction that a candidate "could use" toward a certificate or rating.

I have a big problem with that. Every .01 hour instruction that you got after your private counts toward the instructional requirements for further certificates or ratings.

So tell me. Is the dual you will record during those stage checks countable toward the 20 hours of dual you need for the commercial?

I thing the answer to that is a clear yes.

I am requiring citizenship proof from everyone for anything I will log as dual, from discovery flights to FRs. Your flight school may disagree. Mine disagrees with me. Each school and instructor has to decide how to read this.

The answer to your question is to ask your school and find out what it requires.