training contracts

[gunfyter]

Screw em... If they don't want people to leave to the majors.... Up the pay and open the HBA's ... like they are doing for NJE because of their 8% attrition.. Its the cost of doing business. This is Free market economics... they should understand that.

You do whats right for your family.

NJ did not feel bad camping out in Cincinatti when COMAIR was on Strike.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Nice post gunfyter. Although burning bridges isn't the greatest thing in the world, people should do what is best for them, not the company.

I don't understand why there are so many pilots that feel that you owe the company something after being trained. I've been in plenty of jobs that required training and didn't have some b.s. contract. If the company competes effectively in the open market, they won't have to worry about people leaving after getting a type. Sure it will happen occasionally but that is a cost of doing business!! The contract is simply passing on business risk to the individual, in this case, pilots.

As mentioned, just taking a job for a type and leaving the day training ends is pretty low.

Mr. I.

 

[gunfyter]

He is not talking about taking the job to get a type... but what happens if he gets a better offer.

There is no guarantee that job at the majors will materialize. NJ is a good job... I would not delay taking it if offered. Its all about that lower Seniority number... to upgrade sooner and get furloughed last.

 

[Archie Bunker]

Screw em... If they don't want people to leave to the majors.... Up the pay and open the HBA's ... like they are doing for NJE because of their 8% attrition.. Its the cost of doing business. This is Free market economics... they should understand that.

You do whats right for your family.

NJ did not feel bad camping out in Cincinatti when COMAIR was on Strike.

Gunfyter hit the nail on the head. For me, leaving or staying at NJA will be a business decision, not a personal one.

I am in an interesting position.....I'm currently at NJA, but am in the hiring pool at UPS. I applied to UPS a long time ago, and never heard anything, so I thought I'd try NJA. I was hired quickly, went through training, and really like the company. Fast forward a year later.....UPS calls, I interview, and am placed in their hiring pool. Am I going to tell UPS "no thanks" when they give me a class date? I don't think so. If I had HBA, and the pay was better at NJA, would I be thinking twice about leaving? You bet I would. Did I take the job at NJA to get a free type rating and then exit stage left? You've got to be kidding me.

The reality of the airline business (because it is so competitive) is that a smart pilot will apply to everybody, and take the first decent offer that is placed in his lap. You're not going to apply to an airline one at a time, and either get hired/turned down, and then apply to the next one. That would take forever, and it just isn't realistic.

As Michael Corleone says in The Godfather, "It's not personal Sonny, it's strictly business."

 

[subsonic]

Thanks for all of the opinions. I've never flown for a civilian operator & am trying to learn the ropes. I appreciate the advice & am working to make a logical decision here...

 

[blueridge71]

Citation Shares has a one year training contract.

 

[BoeingBaller]

Screw em... If they don't want people to leave to the majors.... Up the pay and open the HBA's ... like they are doing for NJE because of their 8% attrition.. Its the cost of doing business. This is Free market economics... they should understand that.

You do whats right for your family.

NJ did not feel bad camping out in Cincinatti when COMAIR was on Strike.

WORD.....

 

[BoeingBaller]

Training contracts are a worthless scare tactic.Show me one that has ever held up in court.

 

[RTRHD]

Training contracts are a worthless scare tactic.Show me one that has ever held up in court.

Mine did!

 

[RTRHD]

Nooooo of course the company isn't going to be mad after they spend a bunch of money training you not only for the aircraft but company indoc, uniforms, FOM, blackberry.... the list goes on and on.

They don't have a training contract because they expect you to be a man and accept the job with the expectation that you stay and work.

If you don't want the job apply somewhere else. There are a lot of people that would gladly take your place.

Who are you and what have you done with Diesel?