Training center checkrides

[pilot370]

Ok, I am not complaining in any way but I had my Citation X checkride today and it was a loooooong a$$ day! By the time the debrief was done it took 9 hours to do!! Why can't they do the oral just after you finish ground school? They do it at Simcom(for at least the Hawker) and Higher Power in dallas and i guess flexjet does at the Simuflight in dallas. Anybody have any idea? I put it in my evaluation. i also asked the examiner and said something to the effect of the POI said that the student would no longer be considered enrolled in the program???

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Your POI is full of it. Checkrides are allowed to be broken up into oral and sim/flight. It's done all the time that way at airlines. My oral was completed 3 weeks before my sim then 2 days later did the 3 landings in the plane to make everything official. (all 3 parts done with a different examiner) Nothing like pattern work in a 90K# 4 engine jet because the sim broke for my loft.
It was done that way if needed at the flight school I worked at. Start the checkride (oral) get done and weather has moved in not allowing the flight, the checkride is discontinued and rescheduled for another day. The oral is complete the flight check is done another day.

In fact you as the examined have the right to discontinue a checkride for any reason you wish. Do the oral then as you are walking to the sim tell the examiner you want a discontinuance and will finish tomorrow. The examiner cannot fail you for that.

 

[JAFI]

First, there is no guidance (that I know of) that requires the oral exam to be done on the same day as the flight exam.

Before you cry foul to the POI, contact him/her ans ask why he/she requires the oral and flight exam in the same day. The training center could just be saying that to make you think it is required to be so.

Also, remember that the training center submits a training sylabus to be approved. If the sylabus is not the best package ever submitted, but does follow the CFR's it will be approved as submited. And the Center sylabus could list the oral and flight exam on the same day. When approved it must be done so (barring sim breaking/lack of examiner, etc,).

I wish I had a dime for every time I heard an operator tell it's employees "because that is the way the FAA makes us do something" when I know it not to be true. I could retire now.


JAFI