Toothpaste OK

[Bosshog1]

Just called chief pilots office and they said the TSA just got a memo to allow crews to carry normal overnight stuff (toothpaste, mouthwash). They said TSA got the memo about 20 minutes ago.

 

[CaptETWes]

bump...let's hope this holds true. this needs to stay near the top of the threads today as many, including myself, will be commutting today.

 

[Turkey Shoot]

No, as pilots, you are the dangerous ones. Why you might bring a bomb on you $20M lawn dart that would be easier just to crash! TSA imbeciles!

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

Just called chief pilots office and they said the TSA just got a memo to allow crews to carry normal overnight stuff (toothpaste, mouthwash). They said TSA got the memo about 20 minutes ago.

Memo THIS!

Any big news in the realm of TSA gives some of those loser-secret-agent-wannabees seemingly endless authority to harrass everyone, including old people, children, flight crews, etc.

Just watch the glee in their eyes as thay pat down a 4-year-old, or rummage through the personal articles of a uniformed pilot, or speak rudely to an 88-yr-old combat Veteran.

 

[swordfish]

LONDON - British authorities said Thursday they thwarted a terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up several aircraft heading to the United States using explosives smuggled in carry-on luggage. U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the terrorists planned to use liquid explosives disguised as beverages and other common products and detonators disguised as electronic devices.

 

[CaptETWes]

I uses Brasso. It makes my TEETH shine oh so brights. Bouyyyyyyyy...

Is that supposed to be construed as intelligent?

 

[swordfish]

LONDON - British authorities said Thursday they thwarted a terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up several aircraft heading to the United States using explosives smuggled in carry-on luggage. U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the terrorists planned to use liquid explosives disguised as beverages and other common products and detonators disguised as electronic devices.

 

[Flex81]

I saw that they are making you put your cell phones in checked bags. Anyone know if this is also true for pilots?

 

[CoATP]

Latest word was that flight crews IN UNIFORM are exempt from current security directives.

 

[Occam's Razor]

C'mon, Patriots!

If we brush our teeth and shampoo our hair on trips...the terrorists win!

Our nation can ill afford to trust ID badges issued after fingerprinting and background checks. ID badges can be stolen or forged. (Remind the next cop that pulls you over of that...and demand that he/she submit to a pat-down before you'll discuss that rolling stop you made) Security depends on the diligence and dedication of, well...ok...other uniformed dweebs (TSA) with ID badges, but of course their badges can't be stolen or forged.

I'm done.

Shoot me.

 

[John Pennekamp]

LONDON - British authorities said Thursday they thwarted a terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up several aircraft heading to the United States using explosives smuggled in carry-on luggage. U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the terrorists planned to use liquid explosives disguised as beverages and other common products and detonators disguised as electronic devices.

Chertoff also said that no domestic threat has been discoverd. Fearmonger. And was one asenine post not enough?

 

[John Pennekamp]

*racist and ignorant statement deleted by JP*

Did you ever consider that Al Quada knows they are marked and have been actively recruiting non-Muslims, possibly including old white ladies?

Oh, and by the way. The Oklamahoma City federal building was bombed by a white American from Michigan. And the Olympics (and several abortion clinics) was bombed by a white Christian activist.

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

All of this trouble is being caused by the "peaceful" religion of Islam. There is no one else to blame but the crazy, nut-job muslims who insist on blowing everything and everyone into pieces. They have been fighting for the last 2000 years, and they probably dont remember what they are fighting over anymore. People need to stop being so "nice" and "politically correct" and just do what needs to be done, and that is to profile muslims because they are where the problem is, not the 86 year old white lady who is being given the 7 minute body search in the security lines. I dont believe every single muslim is a whacked out terrorist, but lets look at the facts here. THEY are where the problem lies. Ok I feel better.

Nowhere in any news reports are these bomb plots alleged to have been planned by muslims. We are just assuming and concluding too hastily.

Personally, I believe them to be disgruntled Vermont Dairy Farmers who just lost the Ben 'n' Jerry's contract.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Well we can all beat around the bush all day about this, but terrorists are muslim people, from the peaceful religion of Islam.

I'm just going to give you this link sir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_organisations . Even though its wiki you should still take a nice gander at it and learn a little.

Hopefully that should keep you from posting things like what I quoted...

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

I'm just going to give you this link sir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_organisations . Even though its wiki you shoudl still take a nice gander at it and learn a little.

Hopefully that should keep you from posting things like what I quoted...

Thanks for enlightening us...we are obviously confused and misguided as to the source of terrorism. We need you to guide us.

I'll never look at a little old lady the same again.

 

[John Pennekamp]

There are exceptions of course, i.e Tim Mcvay (sp?), etc, and im sure there will be the occasional one in the future. But there are not enough to make me think that its possible for that little old white lady to be an recruit for Hezzbolla or whoever the case may be.

Its time to stop being afraid of offending people and just come out and say it.[/quote]
Welcome to the Redneck Agenda, folks. "Either you're with us or against us".

Concentrate on these darn Muslim Terrorists. Ignore the fact that we've destroyed the labor movement, undermined civil rights, priced the middle class out of the game with high energy prices, and started two wars.

Orwellian prophecy comes true.

 

[BLing]

Nowhere in any news reports are these bomb plots alleged to have been planned by muslims. We are just assuming and concluding too hastily.

Personally, I believe them to be disgruntled Vermont Dairy Farmers who just lost the Ben 'n' Jerry's contract.

On Fox News, they had British Officials stating that they were Asians, which is their politically correct term for Muslim Terrorists. Also that most of them where 2nd and 3rd generation Pakistanis. Sounds like the work of the Muslims again!

BTW, after the attacks on Pearl Harbor, didnt America round up all Asian's (not as defined in the first pargraph) and put them in camps to keep track of them in order to ensure no more attacks? Maybe we should do that now with Muslims! The Asains got over it, no more attacks happened, and life for them is now good.

 

[Popeye0537]

I'm just going to give you this link sir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_organisations . Even though its wiki you shoudl still take a nice gander at it and learn a little.

Hopefully that should keep you from posting things like what I quoted...

Ha ha, this guys a terriost. He's a proud member of an (Egyptian) running dog team! Gotta love those UGLY dogs!

 

[81Horse]

BTW, after the attacks on Pearl Harbor, didnt America round up all Asian's (not as defined in the first pargraph) and put them in camps to keep track of them in order to ensure no more attacks? ... The Asains got over it, no more attacks happened, and life for them is now good.

You, sir, are a racist bigot with no understanding of 20th century history.

Oh -- and a moron.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

BTW, after the attacks on Pearl Harbor, didnt America round up all Asian's (not as defined in the first pargraph) and put them in camps to keep track of them in order to ensure no more attacks? Maybe we should do that now with Muslims! The Asains got over it, no more attacks happened, and life for them is now good.

I think if I read that again im going to have an aneurysm. Does freedom mean anything to you people? Taking away innocent people's freedoms to preserve freedom....I have a headache.....

::sigh:: America and those freedoms we used to have...weren't they great!

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

The Bill of Rights isn't a suicide pact people...

I believe in due process and seperation of powers and all of that, but profiling islamic appearing and arab travelers only makes good security sense. Our problems revolve primarlily around arab males ages 15-35. Don't like that fact? Tough cookies.

Don't buy into all the warm and fuzzy PC crap. This as much a cultural war as it is a military one. A society and system of governance born of The Enlightenment and the Renaissance verus one which ethically and intellectually never left the 11th century. The want to kill you, no matter how much you pretend to like them. Don't forget that.

Get educated on the history of Islam and the Middle East and things will become very clear.

 

[John Pennekamp]

The Bill of Rights isn't a suicide pact people...

I believe in due process and seperation of powers and all of that, but profiling islamic appearing and arab travelers only makes good security sense. Our problems revolve primarlily around arab males ages 15-35. Don't like that fact? Tough cookies.

Don't buy into all the warm and fuzzy PC crap. This as much a cultural war as it is a military one. A society and system of governance born of The Enlightenment and the Renaissance verus one which ethically and intellectually never left the 11th century. The want to kill you, no matter how much you pretend to like them. Don't forget that.

Get educated on the history of Islam and the Middle East and things will become very clear.

Another ignorant statement. I love how every time there is a terrorist threat, the hate mongers come out of the woodwork.

You are wrong, regardless of what you put off as "fact". It is well known in security circles that Al Qaida is actively recruiting non-Muslim members, especially women. The two previous terrorist attacks in the US before 9-11 were done by white Christians. Yet you refrain from criticizing Christian principles founded over 2000, years ago?

Hate the extremists, not the culture or the religion.

 

[BLing]

You, sir, are a racist bigot with no understanding of 20th century history.

Oh -- and a moron.

Your, sir, are wrong and have nothing to back you claims against me.

Now, I am not claiming that by previous post is the right answer. What is the answer to this problem? I don't know, but maybe something has got to change. As of today, you are not allowed to take a bottle of water on board an airplane!

Back to your racist bigot comment. I am not racist and I am all for diversity. I only have a problem with cultures that promote hatred and the killing of innocent people. Maybe its the terrorists who are the racist bigots, not me sir. Lets take this one step further, what is the motivation behind these terrorists. Maybe its their Muslim faith calling for a Jihad and the reward of 70 something virgins when they go to Allah.

 

[ex j-41]

Those who would trade freedom for security, deserve neither.

Do you know what famous president once said this?
No it is not George W.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Another ignorant statement. I love how every time there is a terrorist threat, the hate mongers come out of the woodwork.

You are wrong, regardless of what you put off as "fact". It is well known in security circles that Al Qaida is actively recruiting non-Muslim members, especially women. The two previous terrorist attacks in the US before 9-11 were done by white Christians. Yet you refrain from criticizing Christian principles founded over 2000, years ago?

Hate the extremists, not the culture or the religion.

What you are ignoring is that the "extremist" view in the Middle East is now more or less mainstream. The hatred and bloodlust exists now on a level that it never has before.

I don't hate Islam, but I do hate what its leaders have produced. No amount of feel good rhetoric will make that go away.

 

[81Horse]

... Your, sir, are wrong and have nothing to back you claims against me.

I claimed, BLing, that you have no understanding of recent history, and are a racist bigot. I'll retract the racist bigot part (since I don't know you personally), but backing up my claim that you're no historian is this:

... didnt America round up all Asian's ... and put them in camps to keep track of them in order to ensure no more attacks? ... The Asains got over it, no more attacks happened, and life for them is now good. ...

What was done to Japanese immigrants and US-born Japanese-American citizens during WWII is off-topic here, but really -- you're sadly uninformed about it.

 

[JohnnyP]

....

JohnnyP = racist puke with a small pee pee

Well ive been cyber-spanked by the webmaster grand dragon guy, so ill play along here. Call me a racist if you will, but I am just voicing my opinion, which in my little world is right on. I dont understand how presenting a realistic view of what is happeneing today is supposed to get me in trouble. I didnt use any racial slurs, etc. Just explained who is causing the majority of the problems out there related to terrorism. You would think that eventually common sense would kick in with some of you and force you out of denial, but I guess not. The evidence is right in front of your faces, open your eyes fellas. Just keep playing nicey nicey with everyone and go to bed at night telling yourself, well whatever it is you tell yourself at night before you turn out the lights.

PunchTheClown, thats a real clever name. You sound like a real bright one.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Your, sir, are wrong and have nothing to back you claims against me.

Now, I am not claiming that by previous post is the right answer. What is the answer to this problem? I don't know, but maybe something has got to change. As of today, you are not allowed to take a bottle of water on board an airplane!

Back to your racist bigot comment. I am not racist and I am all for diversity. I only have a problem with cultures that promote hatred and the killing of innocent people. Maybe its the terrorists who are the racist bigots, not me sir. Lets take this one step further, what is the motivation behind these terrorists. Maybe its their Muslim faith calling for a Jihad and the reward of 70 something virgins when they go to Allah.

What makes you a bigot is that you cannot separate the Muslim religion from terrorism. Not all Muslims are terrorists engaging in Jihad. Just like not all Christians are bombing abortion clinics!

 

[John Pennekamp]

Do you know what famous president once said this?
No it is not George W.

It wasn't a president, it was Benjamin Franklin. And it is still a true statement.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Well ive been cyber-spanked by the webmaster grand dragon guy, so ill play along here. Call me a racist if you will, but I am just voicing my opinion, which in my little world is right on. I dont understand how presenting a realistic view of what is happeneing today is supposed to get me in trouble. I didnt use any racial slurs, etc. Just explained who is causing the majority of the problems out there related to terrorism. You would think that eventually common sense would kick in with some of you and force you out of denial, but I guess not. The evidence is right in front of your faces, open your eyes fellas. Just keep playing nicey nicey with everyone and go to bed at night telling yourself, well whatever it is you tell yourself at night before you turn out the lights.

PunchTheClown, thats a real clever name. You sound like a real bright one.

If that's your idea of an apology for your bigoted statements, you have a long way to go...