Tiger Meet?

[popgoesbubble]

Ok Guys can anyone tell me why the Air Force, Navy, Marines do not participate in Tiger Meets?

Is because were Not European enough? or that we already have the finest Military Aviator's/Leadership/ Military as the Euro Trash do not? (Except) the British.

I'm getting on my soap box as I am sick and tired of reading about how the Euro Trash Nation don't pull there own weight in anything the Germans the Italians the French the List goes on wheather it be in Iraq or Afghanistan we don't get any help yet we contribute to the Bosnia Mission still which is on European Soil.

I read in a Military journel that the Germans don't let there Helo pilots fly at Night in Afghanistan? WTF

I know that during Gulf War 1 the Italians sent a Squadron of Tornado to the war but on day 1 all but one failed to hit the Night tanker before pushing into Iraq and that one plane ended up getting Shot down.

France has a large ground Army and a pretty good tank with a name that sounds like a Dessert dish yet during Gulf war 1/2 Afghanistan and elsewhere they choose to send in the Legion instead.

The European commitment to ISAF I think is pretty poor the French, Germans Italians Spanish etc all have good equipment and good trained SOF yet seem to not want to send there Military anywhere. I respect the British Military even though I still think they should be buying the F-35C like our Navy but the rest of Europe I think there military is for Air show performance's only.

 

[AirBadger]

From an ig'nant civilian perspective: I'm guessing it would be kind of redundant since we host Red Flag, and I think most of the NATO countries participate in that.

 

[popgoesbubble]

That's Right Air Badger they Do participate in Red Flag from time to time and that's about all they Do!

Your comment about being a Civilian was funny though see how you yourself are one. So I was looking someone with "Military Experence" to Commit on this Not another Civilian Wanna Be Like yourself.

I think we have the Finest Military in the World but I am getting tired of reading about how the Euro's don't pull there own weight.

Look at the facts for the past 40 years the biggest threat to Western Eruope was the massive Soviet Armor yet it's 2008 and they Eruo's are just Now fielding a Attack Helocopter?

 

[gcsass]

I know of a unit that goes to tiger meets on a fairly regular basis....

Tiger, Tiger, Tiger..........

 

[PsubS]

Roar!

.....DEAD BUG!!!!

 

[flyburg]

Well, I guess I fail to see the link between the states not participating in the tiger meet and your complaint about the "eurotrash" not doing enough!

however, the complaint about the eurotrash is pretty disrespectfull of the countries that are participating in the campaigns in Iraq and afghanistan, fighting side by side with the US. They are pulling their weight and they have suffered casualties as a result.

The Netherlands have based SF, apache helicopters (yes, they have had them since last century) and F16's in afghanistan. All have seen extensive combat and casualties have been suffered.

We definitely have not contributed as much as the US but exactly what would you expect from a country with 16 million people. How many dead soldiers should we have before we have "pulled our weight" and start to count in your opinion?

Anyways, your appreciation for our effort and suffered casualties has been noted.

 

[stonewall]

I like the Dutch...even had a couple as my IP's at Sheppard. I've flown with Belgian, Dutch, Taiwanese, and Norwegian F-16 pilots. From what I've seen, the Dutch are very good at it. Not as good as us , but still pretty good.

Brits are also very capable fighter pilots. I appreciate their efforts.

 

[flyburg]

From what I've seen, the Dutch are very good at it. Not as good as us , but still pretty good.

Funny, I got a lot of college's that are ex fighter jocks and they say the exact opposite (the US guys are pretty good, not as good as us but still pretty good)

 

[stonewall]

Funny, I got a lot of college's that are ex fighter jocks and they say the exact opposite (the US guys are pretty good, not as good as us but still pretty good)

They fail to realize that we taught them everything they know...but not everything we know.

 

[Pistlpetet]

You can't blame the Euro militaries for the lack of participation. Their hands are absolutely tied by their socialist, liberal, bleeding heart, and pacifist governments that lead them and establish policy.

The guys I know would love nothing more then to be giving the good news to the AQ.