Three years from now, I'll be making what I am now...

[FN FAL]

That's what my friend "victor" said as he left his freight dog job flying for a UPS contrator two years ago. Now he'll have to add a few years to his equation. Will 'victor' make as much as he did flying frieght for some craptacular Beech 99 operator in five or seven years of working for Comair or what the hey?

 

[Herman]

Depends, I guess.
But most likely he is countig down PIC time, compared to sitting right seat for how ever long demand requires....

 

[Al Coholic]

That's what my friend "victor" said as he left his freight dog job flying for a UPS contrator two years ago. Now he'll have to add a few years to his equation. Will 'victor' make as much as he did flying frieght for some craptacular Beech 99 operator in five or seven years of working for Comair or what the hey?

This has got to be one of the more ignorant and total flame bated posts I have ever read.

Tell "Victor" if he's unhappy at CMR he can walk into any one of our CPs offices and resign.

 

[labbats]

Sounds like Victor is a tad shortsighted. Try looking a bit further down the road Vic, and compare pay overall. Did this guy think the same way after high school?

Gee, I could go to college, but you have to pay for it! I'll just stay at piggly wiggly!

 

[FN FAL]

This has got to be one of the more ignorant and total flame bated posts I have ever read.

Tell "Victor" if he's unhappy at CMR he can walk into any one of our CPs offices and resign.

Actually no, punk boy. "Victor" is a smart guy, he just didn't know he was going to be saddled with a pay freeze when he left his Beech 99 PIC job for CMR. He figured he'd make as much as he made at his Beech 99 job within three years of working at CMR.

The pun is not only do you not make as much at the next job three years later...do the wiz wheel crap. Just because you make as much three years later...that does not mean you "made" as much. Ie: If you are making 30,000 a year and you change jobs and expect to make 30,000 a year in your third year...you don't "catch up" until lines on chart cross. Ask a financial planer to figure it out for you if you can't correlate.

To tell you the truth, I don't know how you "catch up" if you have to sell your car to survive untill the catching up occurs. To me, that's stepping back.

The funny thing was, now that CMR took the wage freeze, it's going to take my friend more than three years to catch up...meanwhile he could have some real money at the place he was working at.

I wouldn't be digging on you guys, but his own words were..."In three years, I'll be making what I'm making now!" But in reality, the difference between what he made and what he will make will not be made up by CMR for almost the better part of a decade. In fact, CMR wont buy my friend his car back...so there's more to it than just wage v. wage and a chart.

 

[KingAirKiddo]

Oh, never mind...

Just about bit the bait.

 

[FN FAL]

Oh, never mind...

Just about bit the bait.

What bait? Three years from now, you'll be making what you are now...how could you lose with those odds?

 

[greenpickle]

Not a happy camper

What bait? Three years from now, you'll be making what you are now...how could you lose with those odds?

FN FAL has always been a little unhappy about things. I am just surprised you havent been baggin on Skyway lately. I thought that was your passion. It seems you have moved on to CMR.

As far as your buddy, I hope for his sake he doesnt grumble at CMR. Nothing is worse than flying with a new guy having him tell me how great he had it somewhere else.

 

[bvt1151]

Three years from now we'll all have jobs, and we'll still be making more than you. Sounds pretty good to me.

 

[jetflyer]

Victor is a dumbarsss and should have never been hired.

Besides he may not be making the same 3 yrs from now!!

Delta may be Ch 7 by then!

Jet

 

[FN FAL]

FN FAL has always been a little unhappy about things. I am just surprised you havent been baggin on Skyway lately. I thought that was your passion. It seems you have moved on to CMR.

Yea, as a shrewd consumer, I do tend to leave no stone un-turned.

Why would I bag on Skyway? They never tried to sucker me into spending $35,000 to go to their "airline owned" flight school. I never bagged on Lakes either...so what gives? I never said a negative word about XJ either...and you'd think that if I was un-gruntled with my treatment over there, I would have started my own "blog" over it. Maybe the bright shiny object is most attractive to barracudas?

As far as your buddy, I hope for his sake he doesnt grumble at CMR. Nothing is worse than flying with a new guy having him tell me how great he had it somewhere else.

Actually, this only has to do with what my friend said before he left for CMR...He's happy, a good guy, a team player and good worker; CMR is better off for hiring him.

I just find it a little interesting that many guys go off to a regional rationalizing the move with comments like...

"in three years, I'll be making what I'm making now!"

or

"They told me at the interview that upgrades will be in 8 years, but I'm looking at this seniority list and I think it will be 2 years."

Nobody would knock a guy if he said, "I'm going because that's what I want to do." or "That's where I want to work." What's up with the rationalization?

 

[KingAirKiddo]

Yea, as a shrewd consumer, I do tend to leave no stone un-turned.

Why would I bag on Skyway? They never tried to sucker me into spending $35,000 to go to their "airline owned" flight school. I never bagged on Lakes either...so what gives? I never said a negative word about XJ either...and you'd think that if I was un-gruntled with my treatment over there, I would have started my own "blog" over it. Maybe the bright shiny object is most attractive to barracudas?

(Just a heads up...it's "disgruntled")

Actually, this only has to do with what my friend said before he left for CMR...He's happy, a good guy, a team player and good worker; CMR is better off for hiring him.

(Cool. We're glad he's here then.)

I just find it a little interesting that many guys go off to a regional rationalizing the move with comments like...

"in three years, I'll be making what I'm making now!"

or

"They told me at the interview that upgrades will be in 8 years, but I'm looking at this seniority list and I think it will be 2 years."

(Different strokes for different folks. Everybody has their own rationalization for making the moves that they make in their career. There is definitely risk involved with making any particular move; that's just part of the career that we've chosen.)

Nobody would knock a guy if he said, "I'm going because that's what I want to do." or "That's where I want to work." What's up with the rationalization?

Again, different strokes for different folks. Some of us were in jobs with no advancement opportunities in sight (i.e. the opportunity to get some quality jet time, 121 time, etc.) In the end, you simply try to make the best decision to further your career goals and hope that rolling the dice will pay off. Sometimes that will be the case, sometimes it won't. If my first airline had been Chautauqua or Skywest instead of ACA, for example, I'd be a captain by now. I'd have also missed out on the valuable lessons that being furloughed taught me such as being humble and very appreciative for what I do have instead of always comparing myself to others. Additionally, despite the external rhetoric Comair is still a great place to be and I still look forward to going to work every day that I am scheduled to.

Best of luck to you and "Victor".

 

[SkyBoy1981]

The solution to Victor's problem is quite simple.....go back to the freight job. Hell, he's probably well qualified in the airplane so I'm sure he could be hired back for probably close to the same amount of money he was making when he left. I mean, if its so terrible where he is and the freight job was so much better, it seems like a logical option to me.