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limpyoke

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When is ALPA going to picket the NMB? They are the ones preventing every airline in the nation from getting a contract.
 
When is ALPA going to picket the NMB? They are the ones preventing every airline in the nation from getting a contract.

No...no....The Messiah is in the White House...All will be good...Trust in Obama....
 
No...no....The Messiah is in the White House...All will be good...Trust in Obama....

The NMB under the current administration has been quite friendly toward labor. They changed the organizing rule to 50%+1 of actual voters (just like the Constitution) rather than total employees. The problem seems to be that it matters what the current administration does, hence a company (or a union, to a lessor extent) can just wait it out until a favorable administration takes office.
 
It took Obama seven months to get his appointment into office at the NMB. That leaves just three years and five months to get every airline a contract. The NMB has let just one airline strike. The NMB continues to stall and delay doing there job. When is ALPA going to hold them accountable? Every pilot in the nation should picket the NMB. WE NEED ACTION NOW.
 
The NMB under the current administration has been quite friendly toward labor. They changed the organizing rule to 50%+1 of actual voters (just like the Constitution) rather than total employees. The problem seems to be that it matters what the current administration does, hence a company (or a union, to a lessor extent) can just wait it out until a favorable administration takes office.
Is there a minimum number of votes cast to make an election valid? It seems that if only three people in an entire company vote, you could end up with a union two to one.
 
Is there a minimum number of votes cast to make an election valid? It seems that if only three people in an entire company vote, you could end up with a union two to one.

What is wrong with that? The decision should rest with those that participate.
 
It took Obama seven months to get his appointment into office at the NMB. That leaves just three years and five months to get every airline a contract.

It will take the next guy just as long (longer, probably) to get his NMB picks in, so it will be at least 4 years, and I would bet 8.

The NMB has let just one airline strike. The NMB continues to stall and delay doing there job. When is ALPA going to hold them accountable? Every pilot in the nation should picket the NMB. WE NEED ACTION NOW.

How exactly do you think it will help to publicly attack the people that you need to get your release? You think they'll feel really sympathetic for you then? Bad idea.

The NMB has already released one airline, they were poised to release HAL if a TA wasn't reached in January, and now they're about to release Spirit if a deal isn't reached quickly. For the first time in eight years, the NMB is actually doing its job and applying pressure.
 
At the rate the NMB is moving now we will be lucky to see three airlines released before another change in administration. There are at least 15 airlines that have been waiting over three years to get released. The NMB failure to take swift action is the problem. Airline management knows this and takes full advantage.
 
Watch out for AirCobra and pilotyip they will be along shortly and start singing the praises of the NMB...but only if they can stop pooping on Spirit long enough to read this thread.
 
At the rate the NMB is moving now we will be lucky to see three airlines released before another change in administration.

I think you'll see far more than that. In fact, I expect that many this year alone (Spirit, TSA, and ATN).

There are at least 15 airlines that have been waiting over three years to get released.

Really? Care to name them? I only count seven.
 

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