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U.S. warns of terrorist lasers

Pilot group: Increase in laser incidents

Thursday, December 9, 2004 Posted: 9:38 PM EST (0238 GMT)


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Terrorists may seek to down aircraft by shining powerful lasers into cockpits to blind pilots during landing approaches, U.S. officials warned in a bulletin distributed nationwide.

The memo, sent by the FBI and the Homeland Security Department, says there is evidence that terrorists have explored using lasers as weapons.

There is no specific intelligence indicating al Qaeda or other groups might use lasers in the United States, they added.

"Although lasers are not proven methods of attack like improvised explosive devices and hijackings, terrorist groups overseas have expressed interest in using these devices against human sight," the memo said.

"In certain circumstances, if laser weapons adversely affect the eyesight of both pilot and co-pilot during a non-instrument approach, there is a risk of airliner crash," the agencies said.

In September a pilot for Delta Air Lines reported an eye injury from a laser beam shone into the cockpit during a landing approach in Salt Lake City, Utah. The incident occurred about 5 miles (9 kilometers) from the airport. The plane landed safely.

FBI and other federal officials are investigating. It is not clear if a crime was committed or if the laser was directed into the cockpit by accident.

Steve Luckey, a retired airline pilot who is chairman of the Air Line Pilots Association's national security committee, said pilots are concerned about a recent increase in laser incidents, but do not know what to make of them. He said he has learned of two or three cases in the past 90 days.

"The most recent incidents appear to be aimed at pilots in the vicinity of airports," Luckey said. "A few seem to be intentional, and we're wondering why and what's going on."

Lasers can cause temporary blindness and severely damage the eye by burning the retina. The bulletin notes they are "relatively inexpensive, portable, easy to conceal and readily available on the open market."

Lasers are commonly used in a number of industries and are featured in outdoor light shows. A variety of more powerful military-grade lasers are produced around the world, but there is no evidence that terrorist groups have managed to obtain one, according to federal officials.

The bulletin was sent late last month to law enforcement officials and key government agencies and industries. A copy was obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.
 
I heard the terrorists were also planning on breaking into pilot's rooms on layovers and replacing one contact lens with one that is focused too far out.

Hey, Delta already lost one airplane that way... :D TC


BAD TC, BAD TC! NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM... I appologize for that tasteless comment.TC's conscience ;)
 
The dirty rats can also use infrared lasers that wouldn't be bright to the victims, but just as blinding. Something like the laser in a CD burner can really do a job on someone at close enough range.

I still think missiles and RPGs are a nastier threat to aviation, but lasers will only become smaller and more powerful as the technology evolves.
 
As Jay Leno said last night, "There is almost NO way to protect pilots against these lasers. . .unless of course he has a pair of SUNGLASSES!"

I see a new Serengetti line in the near future.
 
On a side note...I was on final for 26R the other day and some guy was in a minivan pulled over on Loop Road right underneath the approach lights looking up at planes coming in. I'm sure it was totally innocent. In fact, I've thought of doing the same thing myself with a camera sometime. However, post-9/11 it raised an eyebrow and I thought about letting the tower know, but didn't.

What do y'all think about this sort of thing? Nothing to it, or what?
 
AA717driver said:
I heard the terrorists were also planning on breaking into pilot's rooms on layovers and replacing one contact lens with one that is focused too far out.

Hey, Delta already lost one airplane that way... :D TC


BAD TC, BAD TC! NOW GO TO YOUR ROOM... I appologize for that tasteless comment.TC's conscience ;)
Ha, now that's funny!
 
POWDERFINGER said:
I still think missiles and RPGs are a nastier threat to aviation, but lasers will only become smaller and more powerful as the technology evolves.
I would be more worried, Powderfinger, about them sneaking into your hotel room at night, and installing a mind-controlling microchip in your head, or simply removing your brain, and replacing it with a pile of dog-doo.

After reading some of your other posts on this board, I fear it may have happened already.:rolleyes:
 
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This Ty fellow is like a wrecking ball, isn't he?

Regarding the plane watchers who loiter under the approach lights, they get a great view...but I see FL000's point. A bag guy could position himself there with a weapon and have a point blank shot. Someone did damage one of our 727s in Boznia in the 1990s doing that with small arms. A 50 caliber fired into the engines would make for a nasty departure.

A smart bad guy would probably use a more effective weapon from a concealed location. How do you make a sniper's nest for a missile launcher? I can imagine someone with an infrared sight going out under cover of fog and doing a shot by the outer marker. Who would expect that sort of attack?

But lasers do have potential to harm pilots at a critical time, and I hope these scenarios never occur.

Follow this link for more information on lasers:

http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/laserfaq.htm


How about building your own Carbon Dioxide laser and doing some serious cuttin' up:

http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasercc2.htm#cc2toc
 

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