Taxing into hangar = illegal?

[Groundpounder]

Is it illegal to taxi an aircraft inside a hangar?

 

[siucavflight]

No...

 

[Dangerkitty]

Is it illegal to taxi an aircraft inside a hangar?

If it is then I am guilty as charged.

I dont see why it would be illegal. I am sure that there is nothing about this in the regs.

 

[ReverseSensing]

Besides, it's a lot easier than sweeping out the hangar.

 

[avbug]

That would really depend on the circumstances. Depending on the outcome or who complains, the FAA' response would most likely be 14 CFR 91.13(b), Careless and Reckless Operations.

Does any particular specific regulation exist prohibit operation of an aircraft inside a hangar? No. Not with respect to the "FAR's."

At the same time, the hangar is a place where the accumulation of volatile vapors and flammable liquids tend to exist, where fire fighting capabilities are hampered by the contraints of the hangar and the hazardous materials kept inside, where reduced lighting often occurs, where people tend to gather, where objects such as chocks can easily be picked up by the prop and thrown (seen it, seen people nearly killed by it), where maneuvering room is reduced, and where generally we make a practice of moving aircraft by hand and not under their own power. Perhaps that's why it's called a hangar, and not a taxiway.

 

[Dangerkitty]

That would really depend on the circumstances. Depending on the outcome or who complains, the FAA' response would most likely be 14 CFR 91.13(b), Careless and Reckless Operations.

Does any particular specific regulation exist prohibit operation of an aircraft inside a hangar? No. Not with respect to the "FAR's."

At the same time, the hangar is a place where the accumulation of volatile vapors and flammable liquids tend to exist, where fire fighting capabilities are hampered by the contraints of the hangar and the hazardous materials kept inside, where reduced lighting often occurs, where people tend to gather, where objects such as chocks can easily be picked up by the prop and thrown (seen it, seen people nearly killed by it), where maneuvering room is reduced, and where generally we make a practice of moving aircraft by hand and not under their own power. Perhaps that's why it's called a hangar, and not a taxiway.

Then why do you drive on a parkway, yet park on a driveway?

 

[avbug]

I walk on a parkway, and park in the garage. The driveway is for basketball.

 

[81Horse]

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to fly through a hangar though.

 

[avbug]

That would be 91.13(a).

Unless you're Waldo Pepper.

Or the hangar is in the way.

If it is, open the doors.

At each end...

 

[81Horse]

'Cause it wouldn't necessarily be that sketchy ...

http://www.nlhs.com/images/web56.jpg

 

[Lostdog65]

And you have 500' feet away from the nearest "thing"...

Eric

 

[ShyFlyGuy]

Nothing's illegal if you never get caught.

Use the thrust reversers to increase maneuverability.

Shy

 

[Hand Commander]

I knew a rather well off individual who had his own very nice strip (really long drive way with a vasi) next to his house and his own hangar as well. His aircraft consisted of a Yak 52, a Baron 56TC, and a Stinson 108. The majority of the hangar floor was set up like a giant lazy susan. He would taxi into the hangar, park on the appropriate spot, and give a little throttle to rotate the entire floor to move a different plane into position for the next morning. Pretty slick, I guess. No pulling all the planes out to get to the one you want. Gotta love rich people.

 

[avbug]

Yah...those kind of places aren't worth having unless you can have a matched set.

 

[some_dude]

I know someone who did.

http://www.icasfoundation.org/hall_fame/2002/w_swede-thruhangar.jpg

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to fly through a hangar though.

 

[avbug]

That's not really much of a hanger, though.

It's more like the Grand Canyon. Upside down.

With a floor.

And really big doors.

 

[SiuDude]

I heard that the same guy has a moving runway. It's just a giant treadmill that runs opposite the direction of travel, allowing an airplane to takeoff in exactly the same distance as a regular non-moving runway.

I knew a rather well off individual who had his own very nice strip (really long drive way with a vasi) next to his house and his own hangar as well. His aircraft consisted of a Yak 52, a Baron 56TC, and a Stinson 108. The majority of the hangar floor was set up like a giant lazy susan. He would taxi into the hangar, park on the appropriate spot, and give a little throttle to rotate the entire floor to move a different plane into position for the next morning. Pretty slick, I guess. No pulling all the planes out to get to the one you want. Gotta love rich people.

 

[NuGuy]

I walk on a parkway, and park in the garage. The driveway is for basketball.

So, if con is the opposite of pro, is the opposite of progress, congress?

Nu

 

[FN FAL]

I bet avbug uses a tug to pull his car out of the garage to start it.

 

[Hand Commander]

I heard that the same guy has a moving runway. It's just a giant treadmill that runs opposite the direction of travel, allowing an airplane to takeoff in exactly the same distance as a regular non-moving runway.

Oh jeezus, not that can of worms again.

Yeah, you're right. and the lake next to his house, the water is in perpetual motion so you can wakeboard with no boat.

and nice avatar/quote combo, by the way.

 

[Bosley]

That would really depend on the circumstances. Depending on the outcome or who complains, the FAA' response would most likely be 14 CFR 91.13(b), Careless and Reckless Operations.

That's the FAA's excuse for anything they have a hard time violating someone on! It's their "ace in the hole" so to say!

 

[FN FAL]

Yeah, you're right. and the lake next to his house, the water is in perpetual motion so you can wakeboard with no boat.

I wonder what kind of service volume a pump like that would have?

 

[Hand Commander]

I wonder what kind of service volume a pump like that would have?

Well, strangley enough, the pump is submersed in the middle of the lake and is also co-located with his own high altitude VOR. So when he has the stinson on floats and the weather's down, he can depart off the perpetual motion water on his lake, fly the 400 yards to his treadmill runway and shoot the approach. But since he's in the cone of confusion the entire time, is he legal to use his pump VOR as the IAF for the VOR A approach to the treadmill runway so that he can park and rotate his lazy susan hangar? Man, where can I find that? Bernouuuuulllllliiiiiii, oh Bernooooooouuulllllliiiii.....

 

[FL420]

My dad tried it once, unsuccessfully. He was an aircraft mechanic at Tinker AFB during WWII. He was doing a full-power engine runup on a P-51 Mustang outside a hangar when the tail tiedown broke. He kissed the closed hangar doors before he could get it stopped.

 

[TrafficInSight]

Well, strangley enough, the pump is submersed in the middle of the lake and is also co-located with his own high altitude VOR. So when he has the stinson on floats and the weather's down, he can depart off the perpetual motion water on his lake, fly the 400 yards to his treadmill runway and shoot the approach. But since he's in the cone of confusion the entire time, is he legal to use his pump VOR as the IAF for the VOR A approach to the treadmill runway so that he can park and rotate his lazy susan hangar? Man, where can I find that? Bernouuuuulllllliiiiiii, oh Bernooooooouuulllllliiiii.....

My head hurts.

 

[Big Duke Six]

Dig a little deeper, Avbug.

If you'll look, 14 CFR 91.13(b)(4)(12)(d) Indoor Operation of Aircraft states that "No aircraft shall be operated Indoors except for the sole and explicit purpose of taxiing onto Rotational Aircraft Movement Platforms solely set in place for the filthy rich to turn owned aircraft around in unusually tight spaces. Said operators are permitted to "Travolta" their aircraft around indoors unencumbered by the financial constraints that may normally prevent the layperson from performing such a maneuver due to the resultant high cost of FOD damage etc".

See, it's all right there....

 

[avbug]

I suggest you do your research a little more carefully before posting. If you'd bothered to read the regulation, you'd find that 14 CFR 91.13(b)(4)(12)(d)(ii) specifically states,

"Except Tuesdays."

The devil is in the details.

How he got there, we'll never know.

 

[Big Duke Six]

Ahh, there it is. Good catch.

 

[AngelKing]

I suggest you do your research a little more carefully before posting. If you'd bothered to read the regulation, you'd find that 14 CFR 91.13(b)(4)(12)(d)(ii) specifically states,

"Except Tuesdays."

The devil is in the details.

How he got there, we'll never know.

Avbug, I do have to admit, (and you don't know how painful this is), you do have quite a humorous side to you!

AK

 

[Wang Chung]

I was flying aerial survey in a Turbo 206 a few years ago and I needed an oil change and some recurring ADs done. I was working a project someplace down in MS or AL, and I called ahead to an FBO (can't remember where, or which one) and told them when I would arrive and that I needed the work done expeditiously, if possible.

After I landed and pulled onto their ramp, the mechanic marshalled me directly into the middle of their large, wide-open, mostly-empty hanger. He was pulling the cowling off before I even stepped out of the plane.

It was like Jiffy-Lube or something. I was impressed!