T-6 vs. T-37 (which program is better)

[Purduepete]

I have to fill out my dream sheet this month for base location. I have my pilot slot and am deciding between the T-6 and T-37. I understand that the T-6 is superior to the T-37 in many ways, but would like to know if there are any reasons why I should not want the T-6 at Moody, or reasons why the T-6 is the only plane I should want to fly. I really want to track 38s. Will the lack of T-6 gouge hurt me at all? Also, are there more 38s out of the T-37 program? Any insight is greatly appreciated. Also, any T-6 gouge would be awesome. Thanks.

 

[chawbein]

FLY THE TWEET (would you expect anything less with the avatar I have?????)!!!!

Which sounds better "Texan Complete" or "Tweet Complete"???

Seriously, fly the jet. You'll be one of the last to do it. From what I've read (on the internet for what that's worth), the T-6 still has a few bugs that need to be worked out. Plus with the tweet, you don't have to screw with P-Factor!!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

The T-37 is very uncomfortable at hi-altitude unpressurized-the T6 is pressurized. The T-37 has much worse climb performance, so you spend more time climbing and less time learning your manuevers. The T6 has a modern glass cockpit (the -38 isn't glass, but it has good instrumentation).
I took my Capt over to look in a T-37, and his first reaction upon seeing the instrumentation, was "Holy **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**!". It is very non-standard, and not user-freindly.

I don't know if the T6 has A/C on the gnd, but the T-37 barely has it in the air. I know Laughlin is starting T6 students in Jan.

Cliff
GRB

 

[CAL to T-1A]

I'm a little biased since I was the Program Manager for AETC for the last four years, but I'd take the T-6 if offered. The only disadvantage is the current syllabus is very compact 9lots more simulators and no more training days than T-37) and you are much more likely to wash back a class. P-factor is minimized by an automated rudder trim system.

The advantages are huge:
- higher performanace
- air conditioned on the ground and in air
- 0/0 ejection seat in case you have a bad day
- pressurized and g-suit
- modern instrumentation
- awesome simulators

There are still bugs in maturing T-6 system, but they are small bugs. You will also have to PCS from Moody for T-1 or T-38 training inducing a three week extension of SUPT.

Best of luck to you. Any more questions, ask away.

 

[Slug]

His baby

John,

A little biased here?

When you in DLF again? I'm down 14-24 Oct........Yippee!


Slug

 

[CAL to T-1A]

CT to PDX and LA for the weekend.

See you next week.

 

[HueyPilot]

There are certainly pluses and minuses for each program, some more obvious than others.

FOR the T-37:

Proven program; less chance to wash back; get a chance to fly some history; have a humble beginning; fly a very challenging instrument jet (hones skills using worst-case equipment); if you can fly the Tweet in any weather, you can fly anything in any weather; you have the distinction of operating the loudest aircraft on the ramp.

AGAINST the T-37:
It's darn hot in there in the summer; you freeze to death in the winter; the ejection seat belongs in a museum; the engines belong in a museum (or a vacuum cleaner); the airplane doesn't perform well under most (if not all) conditions; it will put you to sleep faster (g-loc); you feel weird after flying at FL250 unpressurized

I don't really know enough about the T-6 to tout it's highlights, but obviously it's newer, has a ton of power, better avionics, and is safer to fly. Part of me says go fly the T-6 and learn the equipment you'll likely have in more advanced cockpits. But then again, part of me says go be a "Man" and fly a humbling, challenging old piece of junk so that anything else you go to can only be an improvement.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

T-38C's are glass cockpits and hitting the flightline soon, (vance this year I believe). So, that would be a GOOD reason to go to the T-6. From what I saw of all the drops I was invovled with, there was no distinct advantage or disadvantage to being at Moody when it came to the class drop. I could be wrong there as I didn't pay all that much attention to it. I'd go where you want to be geographically. Which is the shortest drive to the most females who will take care of you after a long week of cramming the books and flying your tail off? That would be your best bet. Go where you know you'll score well when it counts....

 

[furloboy]

I've never flown the Tweet, but have nearly 2K hours in the mighty T-2C Buckeye. Regardless, the Tweet is one of my favorite aircraft because it's one of the very few that is uglier and slower than the Buckeye.

And it's the only military jet that I can think of, into which a fellow can p1ss with both feet firmly planted on the ramp.

 

[T1bubba]

furlo,

Never considered using a tweet as a urinal, but that does bring up an important point...

One of the best reasons to fly a tweet would be if you only have a 1.3 hour bladder. The T-6 can stay up for quite a bit longer.

T1bubba