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SWA Faces $10.2M Penalty

Southwest faces a $10.2 million penalty

FAA says airline didn't inspect older planes for fuselage cracking


David Koenig, Associated Press
Friday, March 7, 2008

(03-07) 04:00 PST Dallas --
Federal regulators said Thursday they will seek a civil penalty of $10.2 million - the largest ever - against Southwest Airlines Co. for failing to inspect older planes for cracks and then flying them before inspections were done.
The FAA said Southwest operated nearly 60,000 flights in 2006 and 2007 using 46 planes that had not been inspected for possible fatigue-related cracking on their fuselages.
The airline then flew 1,451 flights with the same planes last March, even after discovering that it had failed to conduct the required inspections, the FAA charged.
The agency had ordered airlines in September 2004 to conduct repeat inspections of some areas of the fuselage on some older models of Boeing 737 aircraft.
"The FAA is taking action against Southwest Airlines for a failing to follow rules that are designed to protect passengers and crew," said Nicholas Sabatini, the agency's associate administrator for safety. "We expect the airline industry to fully comply with all FAA directives and take corrective action."
The airline said Thursday that it had complied with regulators' requests and would contest any penalty. The airline has 30 days to respond to the FAA.
The aim of the FAA's 2004 directive was to make sure airline crews found and repaired small cracks before they became large enough to pose a safety hazard.
A spokeswoman for Southwest, Beth Harbin, said the airline brought the issue to the FAA's attention and believed it had handled the matter to the agency's satisfaction. Harbin said the airline believed the case was closed last year.
"We brought in 46 airplanes to take another look at them," Harbin said. "These are preventive inspections. On six of the 46 we found the start of some very small cracking. That's the intent of the inspection schedule - to find something before it becomes a problem. These are safe planes."
The FAA itself has come under fire for the Southwest case. A congressional committee and the Transportation Department's inspector general are looking into why the FAA didn't ground the planes when it learned of the missed inspections a year ago.
Rep. James Oberstar, D-Minn., chairman of the House transportation committee, said he got information from whistle-blowers indicating that an FAA inspector let Southwest operate flights before properly inspecting the planes. A hearing on that matter was scheduled for next week but has been postponed until April.
FAA regulations require that airplanes be grounded if a mandatory inspection has been missed, until the work can be performed.
The FAA could have sought a penalty of $25,000 per violation, or up to $36 million, according to a person close to the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity.
This article appeared on page C - 3 of the San Francisco Chronicle
 
Gary Kelly was on CNN this morning presenting his case. I don't think he would stick his neck out like that if SWA did not have a valid argument. The Fed who extended the deadline is probably no longer a Fed...SWA was just doing what it was told it could do. If I applied for an extension and they approved it...then how am I in violation???

First, lets remember....SWA didn't try to hide anything. They self-disclosed to the FAA.

In addition, SWA and the FAA PMI then consulted with Boeing on the issue. Both agreed with Boeing's assesment that the acft in question could continue to fly as long as the inspections were completed within the following 10 days.

the inspections were completed and the FAA PMI told SWA that the case was closed.

what happened here is that other FAA folks who don't have anything to do with SWA, got wind of this and reported it to higher ups.

An in house-pi$$ing contest is what it looks like to me.

I'll bet right now....not $1 in a fine is held against SWA in this matter, and Oberstar ends up looking like a fool.

Anybody remember Bob Hoover and his case against the FAA?
 
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This update released at 2:04EST


Southwest CEO calls for investigation into FAA penalty
By Christopher Hinton

<IMG class=pixelTracking height=1 width=1 border=0>LUV 12.22, -0.28, -2.2%) Chief Executive Gary Kelly said Friday he was surprised by the Federal Aviation Administration's proposed $10.2 million penalty against the carrier and called for an investigation. The FAA said Southwest found six of its 46 airplanes had fatigue cracks in their fuselages. "We voluntarily reported that to the FAA," Kelly said in a statement. "We worked out with the FAA how to fix that problem, and we fixed it. We were surprised yesterday to get that notification." Kelly said Southwest has had no safety issues with the FAA in the last month and wants an investigation into the penalty. Southwest shares were down 2.6% to $12.13.
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Look it's the highest fine the FAA has ever imposed in its history - that says something. And yes, SWA has always been the baby of ATC and probably portions of the FAA. Remember that they could have fined up to $36M but there was some sort that that would be too high a fine for a any carrier it today's market.

SWA screwed up - its obvious. Of course Kelly and the rest of SWA management have to defend the carrier but the fact remains that this was a very serious error/oversight. This will probably have some legs for a bit of time.
 
SWA screwed up - its obvious. --->And then self-disclosed to the FAA.Of course Kelly and the rest of SWA management have to defend the carrier but the fact remains that this was a very serious error/oversight.--->It was...so they contacted Boeing about it. Boeing told them that it would be safe to fly those airplanes for another 10 days so the inspections could get scheduled. The inspections got completed in 8 days...2 days under the deadline that was approved by the FAA. The FAA then considered the matter closed. This will probably have some legs for a bit of time.--->On FI.com...yes...but in the national press...no. This is over by tomorrow....I'll even bet that by tomorrow is isn't even mentioned in the Dallas Morning News. Additionally, I'm even betting that SWA never pays one penny of a fine.

Remember the Bob Hoover deal
 
This is over by tomorrow....I'll even bet that by tomorrow is isn't even mentioned in the Dallas Morning News. Additionally, I'm even betting that SWA never pays one penny of a fine.[/B]

Remember the Bob Hoover deal

I'll take the other side of that bet. When a Democratic Congressman who represents a hub city for a competing airline that doesn't want you there, is requesting immediate Congressional hearings over an admitted safety issue, the press is going to continue to run with the story.
 

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