Sully to the rescue again!

[waveflyer]

Got it, ASA rocks.....now how do I schedule my flights to ONLY fly ASA as my Delta subcontractor in the future?

Exactly.

One of the biggest pressures we can apply is the consumer fraud aspect. Only frequent fliers know the differences between regional carriers- many non frequent fliers are surprised as all get out that they aren't flying on a mainline airplane- esp as the RJs get bigger. I've been flying airliners of all sizes for close to two decades and I just asked a cousin who she flew to Seattle. "Alaska"
"It was skywest"- "who?"

To me code share is too convoluted for consumers to make educated choices. And that's wrong.

 

[rigger]

Ahhhhh when did sully ever work at a regional? He worked in the silver spoon era of major airlines. Has no idea what the safety aspect is at a "regional" I've been at both...not a whole lot of differance. Some days suck more than others.....at both

 

[waveflyer]

Ahhhhh when did sully ever work at a regional? He worked in the silver spoon era of major airlines. Has no idea what the safety aspect is at a "regional" I've been at both...not a whole lot of differance. Some days suck more than others.....at both

I'm sorry - but I've been at both twice- once each before 9/11 and again after-

I would say that domestic lines at legacies are still a bit better than at big regionals- the lesser regionals schedule in flat out unsafe ways- reversing sleep schedules, scheduled reduced rest-
The proficiency of knowing the home base so well does make up for some- but tired and underpaid (ie: financially pressured to work more to meet basic needs) is always going to be less safe than rested and well paid

 

[IBNAV8R]

I'm sorry - but I've been at both twice- once each before 9/11 and again after-

I would say that domestic lines at legacies are still a bit better than at big regionals- the lesser regionals schedule in flat out unsafe ways- reversing sleep schedules, scheduled reduced rest-
The proficiency of knowing the home base so well does make up for some- but tired and underpaid (ie: financially pressured to work more to meet basic needs) is always going to be less safe than rested and well paid

Bottom line is that customers don't really care.

Oh, they'll whine about the "small" plane or parrot whatever they hear on some TV spin-special (during ratings week) but none of that seems to matter when they see they can save $5 each way.

 

[elguapo9]

True story:

When I was at Shuttle America, a friend managed somehow to get an interview for a new Chief Pilot position that had just opened up. The exchange went like this:

Interviewer: "What do you consider our #1 priority?"

Applicant: "Safety."

Interviewer: "Actually, it's ontime performance, but safety is in the top three."

He never did find out what was the other item in the top 3, and whether safety was #2 or #3.

The problem isn't the regional pilots, it's the regional management.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Isn't that the same Sully that worked for an airline with one of the WORST safety records in aviation?

 

[charlie2]

Isn't that the same Sully that worked for an airline with one of the WORST safety records in aviation?

Hey Birdie we are dangerous and don't forgoet it.

 

[charlie2]

I'm sorry - but I've been at both twice- once each before 9/11 and again after-

I would say that domestic lines at legacies are still a bit better than at big regionals- the lesser regionals schedule in flat out unsafe ways- reversing sleep schedules, scheduled reduced rest-
The proficiency of knowing the home base so well does make up for some- but tired and underpaid (ie: financially pressured to work more to meet basic needs) is always going to be less safe than rested and well paid

In the 90's I worked for one of the best "regionals" and I thought the training was good. When I got to stupidways I was really impressed with the training. One quick example ( and there are many) my regional thought it was fine to have many 13 or 14 line emergency memorey items (only because a fleet captain said he could do it) but at the real airline I joined basically says we want our pilots to do it right so have a small amount of memory stuff and then we grab a checklist (QRH) to do the rest right.

 

[waveflyer]

Bottom line is that customers don't really care.

Oh, they'll whine about the "small" plane or parrot whatever they hear on some TV spin-special (during ratings week) but none of that seems to matter when they see they can save $5 each way.

No- passengers assume our industry is regulated well enough- they just trust the system

 

[Bringupthebird]

Hey Birdie we are dangerous and don't forgoet it.

What "we"? My airline had ZERO fatalities during it's entire history. So much for "we".