street captains

[cargojunkie]

anybody know who is hiring captains off the street? What is the min time required? Fast upgrade does that exist today?

 

[DetoXJ]

Nobody if you only have 2400. Most regionals require much more time for upgrade to meet insurance requirements.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Nobody if you only have 2400. Most regionals require much more time for upgrade to meet insurance requirements.

2400 Is pretty light on time to be expecting a Street Cap position.

I know a guy that want to Mesa, Bid the 1900 and made Captian in 3 months. He was about the same TT as you, maybe a little more. Don't know if that is still the case there or not, I think is was just a freak of timing. I think he is still sitting reserve after a year so I doubt it can be done now.

I agree with the above of absolutly zero chance of getting straight into the left seat of a 121 Jet with 2400 TT. If you had spent 1000 hours as a right seater then to the left as a 2400 hour guy with the same company, yes....but not right out of the chute as a newbie.

2400TT will probably give you a shot at a King Air Captain if you have a few hundred hours of turbine time (you didn't say in your post) and know somebody in the company.

Also try some of the freight haulers that operate turbine equipment. 2400 should be fine for amerifreight or some of the other Metro or Caravan operators.

 

[English]

I was a street captain in the Saab at 2500 hours. It can be done.

Try Island Air, Shuttle America, and Colgan. Have to have time in type to be hired as a street captain.

 

[Swerpipe]

Gulfstream was taking street Captains

I was talking to a Gulfstream recruiter about becoming a street Captain. I believe their minimums were something like 3500 Total 1000 PIC Turbine and some other night and instrument requirements that you would meet if you met the first two. They also required that your PIC turbine was either Part 135 or Part 121. You would also have to pass a sim ride which you would if you really had that experience and were current. I ended not going for the job because I got a better one. Bottom line it is possible but it is not likely that anyone will make you a Captain if you have not been a Captain (turbine PIC) before.

 

[350DRIVER]

anybody know who is hiring captains off the street? What is the min time required? Fast upgrade does that exist today?

Mesa "was" hiring street captains for the Dash for awhile but I think the pilot group there put an end to that somewhat quickly. (so I have heard)

Try Gulfstream, they have done this practice quite a bit in the past.

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[SneakyJake]

Mesa was not hiring street captains. With the current contract, if someone hired at that time placed DHC-8 capt/ DEN on their standing bid, they could hold it from the start. A few months prior it took 5 or 6 weeks in the right seat then "back to training". The company has the right to type people if they want, so they did. Right now it would probably be 9 months to a year. To fly the 1900's you would have to interview with Air Midwest. The term "street captain" is a myth in some ways. It all has to do with movement and contracts. With Mesa you just have to meet the ICAO mins to fly left seat.

 

[7KCAB]

Upgrade? What's that?

These aren't the good ole days of 1-2 year upgrades. You will be paying your dues just about anywhere you go. And that is nothing new - my father-in-law was an FE at DAL for SEVEN years before he got into the right seat all this AFTER being a KC-135 IP in the Air Force. And the pay then was bad - he started at $900/mo. in 1978. Even figuring inflation, that is modest at best. It paid off for him in the long run, obviously, but he had to pay his dues sitting sideways. So many younger pilots are expecting to be sitting in the left seat after a few years at a regional with less than 3000 hours - it happened for many years in the late 90's, but now the industry is such that it's not happening. Lots (not all) of guys seem to feel that since they paid ALOT of money for various stages of their training that they are entitled to a quick path the left seat and many training programs have led people to believe this. And many people are picking an airline based soley on upgrade times. Point is that paying dues is nothing new - in fact it used to be much worse. There are many worse and less-paying ways to pay dues by being an RJ FO...OK, not many less paying, but many worse.

 

[SWA GUY]

Back in 97,98,99 at Coex we had ~6 month upgrade on the 1900, ~9 month upgrade on the 120, and ~12month upgrade on the ATR.

It didn't matter what A/C you came from or chose to upgrade on, that was the time frame as long as you had 1500 hours. I know, I upgraded in a year with 1750TT.

I think the hourly requirement really depends on what kind of insurance deal your carrier works out.