Speed Limit Offshore

[atldc9]

Fact is, there are alot of GA trafic low level more than 12 nm offshore FL. Just don't want to see a C210 plastered on your windshield. Are you the same one who considers it a "clearance to go over 250 kts below 10,000' outside of Class B" when ATL approach tells you to keep the speed up? I haven't heard FLL or MIA use that wording before.

Nope. That one is cut and dried, just like the 12 mile rule. I just disagree with your calling of this very normal, everyday occurence 'a bunch of cowboys..being cool.'

Cool has nothing to do with it. What safe should should I fly? 100 knots, 150, 250?

 

[Big Beer Belly]

Our POI believes that ATC is acting on behalf of the administrator and can ask for any speed at any altitude within his controlled airspace. The reg reads "Unless authorized by the administrator, no person shall operate ......"

We don't get asked very often but when they (ATC) do we go as fast as they want us to.

Fly

I would be VERY careful with this one. I think your POI is alone in his interpretation and this may pose a liability for you. Always my understanding that ATC cannot "clear" you to exceed 250 below 10,000 in FAA controlled airspace. Some military aircraft have waivers (T-38 and most fighters, for instance) to exceed 250 due to flight envelope considerations, but even they were not allowed to exceed their "waiver speed" below 10,000 simply because ATC made a request.

 

[cvsfly]

Nope. That one is cut and dried, just like the 12 mile rule. I just disagree with your calling of this very normal, everyday occurence 'a bunch of cowboys..being cool.'

Cool has nothing to do with it. What safe should should I fly? 100 knots, 150, 250?

Just reacting to the tone of some of these comments. Just because a regulation or lack there of lets you operate a certain way doesn't mean you should and just about every reg. is a compromise to some degree. Why do you think 250 kts is a limit below 10,000' in the US? Note of caution. I'll be taking a vacation to the Bahamas in a few weeks- look out! Although, we will be IFR, there are lots of VFR and FL controllers are usually too saturated to give you all advisories. When we are flying for the company in turbine equipment, we have enough TAs and RAs between IFRs down there as it is. Just give a little thought to the area you are flying in.

 

[canyonblue737]

I can be really scared now flying small planes to the Bahamas. A bunch of cowboys going as fast as they can at low altitude just because they think they can and its cool. Save it for above 10,000', please. There is enough mid-air potential in FL as it is.

If the intention was to keep it 250 or less below 10,000 in all situations it would be spelled out as such. Until such time barberpole is legal, normal, and encouraged while more than 12 miles off shore.