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canyonblue

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From Forbes Magazine

Aude Lagorce, 03.29.04, 3:00 PM ET

NEW YORK - Could James Parker, the wizard chief executive of Southwest Airlines, be losing his mojo?

This, at least, is what the results of our March CEO approval ratings poll would suggest. While the Parker we know has traditionally been a high flyer in our poll, consistently raking in more than 65% of positive votes over the last year, his score plummeted to only 33% this month. Add in the fact that an unusual 29,000 site visitors cared to vote on his performance since March 1 and you begin to wonder what kind of turbulence Southwest may be experiencing.

A reading of the discussion associated with the poll yields a few clues. Essentially, the contract negotiations between the "LUV airline", a nickname it derives from its stock ticker, and its flight attendants have been anything but a love fest. Started almost two years ago, they have stalled.

"We're at a stalemate with the company; they're refusing to meet with us," says Thom McDaniel, president of the union that represents Southwest's 7,300 flight attendants. "Baloney," replies the company. "We made them our best offer and they barely looked at it. They wouldn't even let the members see it. The federal mediator has called for a recess, not us."

Because of the prolonged bargaining, frustration is now running high among employees. While posting to the message board associated with our poll is anonymous, that discussion board displays a high degree of familiarity with the airline. And the vast majority of the posts direct harsh criticism at Parker, often unfavorably comparing him to predecessor Herb Kelleher, who remains chairman.

"All Mr. Parker will ever be remembered for is that he was the little man who destroyed Herb's wonderful airline," reads one message. The note is quickly echoed by a flurry of responses voicing similar reproaches: "He is the beginning of the downfall of Southwest Airlines" and "Everything that Herb Kelleher built has just become a house of cards because of Jim Parker."

But wait a second. Shouldn't Parker, under whose management the airline has managed to remain in the black while bigger competitors like US Airways Group , Continental Airlines and Northwest Airlines struggled, be praised rather than immolated in public? After all, as a few postings point out, he has given employees "job security and peace of mind," and led the company with a steady hand in turbulent times.

So, why is Parker now entangled in contract negotiations when it is customary for chief executives to leave this work to others and only step in at the end to land the contract?

The answer: Because it used to be his job. Parker was the airline's lead negotiator before he became chief executive. Under his new title, he has kept that responsibility.

But not everyone thinks he should be the public face of the company as well as the man to confront the unions. "He's a very good negotiator," says Glenn Engel, an analyst with Goldman Sachs. "He's doing it because he's good at it. But now he's in a different role. Maybe he shouldn't take as active a role as he used to at this state of the negotiations."

Parker is indeed paying a high price for his determination. Although in the past two years he has successfully renegotiated five contracts with various groups, the row with the flight attendants union is becoming unusually partisan.

McDaniel denies that it was the union's idea for employees to start voting en masse against Parker in our approval ratings poll, but he admits that lately, seeing the company unwilling to budge, he has begun encouraging members to voice their opinion.

"The way they see it, he's the only man standing in the way of higher pay," McDaniel says. Replies the company: "It's unfortunate that a small group of people is trying to smear mud on a guy who really doesn't deserve it." While our poll is unscientific, and the vote count nearly equals the total number of Southwest employees, it has been structured to prevent automated voting by Web software.

So what do the flight attendants want anyway? A little more than higher pay, it turns out. They want to be remunerated for time spent on the ground dealing with security procedures or cleaning the plane; they want their four-week training period to be paid and special compensation when working holidays. Their main arguments: The company is doing well--it reported net income of $442 million for 2003, its 31st consecutive year of profitability--and all the other groups have gotten raises over the past few years. The company counters that it is paying its flight attendants as well or better than competitors, and is more than willing to give them raises. But a negotiation is a negotiation, and it must keep costs low to remain profitable.

Ironically, the airline's continued profitability, although it has saved many employees' jobs, is not an asset in the negotiation. "Because they've been doing well, they're not getting the concessions from labor that the other airlines got," says Engel. By comparison, the union representing Northwest Airlines' pilots urged its members last week to consider making more concessions.

Faced with demands it doesn't seem to consider reasonable at times when it must compete with a growing number of discount airlines like JetBlue Airways , Delta Air Lines' Song and UAL's discount sibling to United Airlines, Ted, the leadership of the LUV airline could finally be tempted to override the union by trying to let members know directly what their offer is. "It has happened in the past," says Engel.

In the meantime, none of the bad-mouthing, whether it is the pins some flight attendants wear ("Has the LUV airline lost its heart? It's breaking ours") or the campaign to sink Parker's rating on our site, are moving the negotiation forward.

And unfortunately for the union, the LUV airline faces no shortage of applicants for its jobs.
 
Jim will get some help when the poor numbers come out this Q. The pre-emptive fare sale to Florida is further indication that the company's bookings are already taking a hit in the 2nd Q. I think if you look at all the LUV markets in Florida, they continue to lose market share.

Logan's domestic travel is up 25% in the first 75 days of the year. This is indicative that Manchester and Providence are taking a hit. The "big dig" is complete, and once again Logan is becoming the airport of choice in the Boston market.
 
Oh you're back again? You need to stop drinking before you type.

If I can remember back.......( rubbing my chin ala Letterman as some dream sequence takes place)...

Vinage Lowecur

Without the $41M fuel hedge this Q, where would you be? That's not going to last forever, prices will stabilize.

Oh, they have stabilized! Around $38 a barrel! We are hedged at $23 a barrel


In the 1st Q of 2003 you guys had a net profit of 3 cents per share with a 58% LF. I think the profit was around $24M. This year you will have that charge of $30M for the reservations center. Mr. Parkers stated the following looking forward: "Although the first half of January 2004 showed modest unit revenue growth, bookings suggest that January's load factor could fall below last year's performance of 58.0 percent." Maybe that's why the big sales are happening systemwide. Couple that with the new competition in New England, and it's going to be close this Q.

January Load factor 56.2%, 2003 58.0% (1.8) pts. Down 1.8%,
February Load factor 62.2%, 2003 62.5% (0.3)pts. Down .3%
You said with these loads we would be close to a loss, so lets see if the 1Q numbers are "close".

SQUAWK..........Look for the loss!
 
canyon

Originally posted by canyonblue
Oh, they have stabilized! Around $38 a barrel! We are hedged at $23 a barrel

Cool. So what's you're point genius, that fuel hedging is going to save your a$$ again? You were hedged last year also, and still only made $25M, or .03 per share.

Originally posted by canyonblue
January Load factor 56.2%, 2003 58.0% (1.8) pts. Down 1.8%, February Load factor 62.2%, 2003 62.5% (0.3)pts. Down .3%. You said with these loads we would be close to a loss, so lets see if the 1Q numbers are "close".

SQUAWK..........Look for the loss!

Look's like my prediction on Manchester and Providence was dead on! We'll see what kind of creative accounting Gary will have this Q. I'm still betting on a loss, or a profit of no more than $5M. If you think you're doing great, just keep whistling past the grave yard.
 
Simple solution

Click on the profile button for lowcur...

At the bottom of the profile....

Click Add lowcur to your ignore list

Simple

Chaz
 
Re: canyon

lowecur said:
I'm still betting on a loss, or a profit of no more than $5M. If you think you're doing great, just keep whistling past the grave yard.

How much are you betting? I'll take the 5M spread.
 
He is right...we are in big trouble. On my last trips we only averaged like 125 passengers per leg. That will not do with an aircraft that holds 137. I'm going to start looking for a new job.

I bet we lose like 45 million in the first Q. Its all over... I guess everybody is now driving instead of flying our long hauls. MDW-LAX..I guess you can drive that in 40 hours, why would anybody want to fly when you can drive.
 
SWA/FO said:
He is right...we are in big trouble. On my last trips we only averaged like 125 passengers per leg. That will not do with an aircraft that holds 137. I'm going to start looking for a new job.

LOL...I'll second that....seems like every flight I work has over 100 pax per leg...of course I seem to always work on -200s so they just "appear" to be full.
 
swa/fo

SWA/FO said:
He is right...we are in big trouble. On my last trips we only averaged like 125 passengers per leg. That will not do with an aircraft that holds 137. I'm going to start looking for a new job.
Well I think the LF's are quite a bit better in March, don't you? Of course what you neglected to mention were those averages were reduced to 60 pax per leg in Jan and Feb.

RASMS will be reduced this Q as pricing power is beginning to disappear with all the sales. Keep selling those $99 coast to coast deals. I see they are still good till 4/8 and will probably be extended again so the FA's aren't entertaining themselves. :D :D
 
HOSE

Hose A. Jiminez said:
God almighty, what an idiot.
Take your overbite to Tijuana and see if yo Mama can get you a job as a backhoe. Maybe some Hollywood agent might sign you to play "Mr. Ed."
 
Lowecur- Ya, load factors and number of tickets sold was way down in Jan/Feb. I don't know if SWA will make it after all!

SWA looks strong in 1Q 2004
Just read these numbers. Looks good for 1st quarter profits. PHL should help boost profits starting in May. I'm sure those planes will be packed full from day one.



Passenger Numbers Surge Systemwide Posted on Thu, 03/25/04 00:00
AUS: Passenger traffic at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport in February was up 7.74 percent over the same month last year, totaling just over 495,000 passengers. Passenger numbers for the first two months of the year reached 982,330, which represented a 3.5 percent increase from the same time last year. The number of passengers traveling through the airport daily averaged 17,070 in February 2004, up eight percent from January.

ORF: Norfolk International Airport experienced the highest recorded February passenger count in its history?247,380?surpassing the previous highest traffic figure of 225,443 in 1988. February?s figure represents a 16.90 percent increase in passenger activity compared to 211,624 passengers in February 2003. Year-to-date, passenger activity has increased by 9.16 percent from 2003.

RNO: Reno/Tahoe International Airport?s February passenger traffic surged 13.6 percent over last February?s total, posting the largest month-over-month increase in seven years. According to an RNO press release, the 13.6 percent increase far exceeds the national average of 5.5 percent for February domestic enplanements. Year-to-date passenger traffic at the airport is up 8.9 percent over last year. ?These are summer numbers,? said Tom Medland, RNO?s director of marketing and air service development. ?To have a 13.6 percent increase in February is unprecedented.?

SNA: January passenger traffic at John Wayne Airport increased by 9.1 percent year-over-year when more than 673,701 travelers passed through the Thomas F. Riley Terminal. ?We ... ended 2003 with a record number of passengers,? said SNA Director Alan Murphy. ?Things have yet to slow down. If this type of trend continues, it appears that we may have another record-setting year.?
 
roughneck

What does all that have to do with the price of bread? Those are February numbers for three individual airports. We already know the LF for February systemwide was 62.2%, down from the previous year. We also know there was a big seat sale to stimulate poor bookings as acknowledged by mgt in the 1st Q.

There is now a seat sale to Florida, where LUV is losing market share in all of the airports. RASM will be hurt by these seat sales.
 
dude

Yeah, I think I know more than you. Since you brought it up, I'll let you explain it to all the other parrots.:rolleyes:
 
Lowecur,

What are you...in third grade???

I can see why people want to put you on their ignore list...i'm sure along with many people in your life.
 
SWAdude said:
Lowecur,

What are you...in third grade???

I can see why people want to put you on their ignore list...i'm sure along with many people in your life.
Oh, dude........you're so crude. When you can't back up your statement, just start throwing spit balls. :o :o
 

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