Some things never change ...what a disgrace

[ruhroa]

a report in the Buffalo News noted that the pilot of Flight 3407 had slept the previous night in the airline's crew room and suggested that backward progress had since been made. According to the article, Colgan has "come up with a way of making it more difficult for pilots to do that. It's ordered the lights to be kept on in its crew rooms."

That my friends is the attitude that gets people killed and i hate to say it...... It is not going to change till the pilots themselves get it changed......

I am so very, very lucky that I don't have to live in your world.
a world where a child's dream can be so powerful that you would put up with this chit and risk not only your own lives but all the lives of the passengers you fly because you allow management of these whale chit outfits to have practices that force well trained intelligent people to live like they have entry level blue collar jobs....
I am not even going to waste my breath on managements role in this.....
It is just a sad, sad day when your dreams become a nightmare..........

 

[CaptSeth]

Right on. Frankly, that carrier is a disease that needs to be excised from the industry, and the fee-for-departure structure eliminated as it does nothing more then perpetuate a race to the bottom for employees. Only way? REGULATION. Maybe not re-reglulating the industry, but there must be a way of codifying a minimum working condition/operating expense formula based on the aggregate of reported costs the DOT gets.

 

[nimtz]

As far as I know, Colgan still does stand-up overnights on the Q400 out of EWR. It takes a gigantic set of b@lls and utter stupidity to pull that off en light of the spotlight 3407 put on their corporate leadership. BTW, thanks to CAL management for the strong due diligence undertaken before putting the globe on the Q400...

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

"We fixed it."

 

[becket]

In Colgan's mind, the extra cost to the electric bill is more than enough money spent to cure the causes of that pointless tragedy.

Too bad Colgan management wasn't on that plane.

 

[waka]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Colgan have a policy against pilots sleeping in the crew rooms in the first place? I'm sure Renslow knew about said policy. I don't side with Colgan in general, but did they really do something wrong by creating an environment that encourages adherence to an existing policy?

 

[densoo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Colgan have a policy against pilots sleeping in the crew rooms in the first place? I'm sure Renslow knew about said policy. I don't side with Colgan in general, but did they really do something wrong by creating an environment that encourages adherence to an existing policy?

So now they'll be sleeping in the terminal, with pax taking photos of them on their cell phones.

The problem is not the sleeping in the crewroom. The problem is needing to sleep. Just because they now don't see it hasn't made the problem go away.

Next, they'll start playing loud rock music 24 hours a day just like they do to POWs as a form of sleep deprivation torture. Can waterboarding be far behind?

 

[surfnfly]

What's next company issued sleeping bags in initial training!

 

[densoo]

what are your options in the most expensive place in the country when you're paid jack and routinely scheduled to the legal mins?

That about sums it up.

 

[waveflyer]

I can't pretend that PAY isn't a safety issue -
and there's way more to this than simple market forces-