Socata Tbm

[nosedragger]

How does 1300 hrs eventually transition to PIC in the Socata TBM.

Many thanks.

 

[PC12Cowboy]

It Doesn't

 

[GVJeff]

How does 1300 hrs eventually transition to PIC in the Socata TBM.

Many thanks.

My strong recommendation would be for you to call up Simcom and ask to be booked in a TBM 700 initial class. Pay for the training yourself, then come back here and post all over that you are now available for TBM 700 flying. In addition, until you get 500 hours or more in type, you should fly for free, or for $50/day or so.

That's my recommendation.

 

[ultrarunner]

How does 1300 hrs eventually transition to PIC in the Socata TBM.

Many thanks.

It's a whole different ball game flying around at 300 kts in the flight levels. An underwriter isn't going to let you just jump in that plane anyway, so it' doesn't matter until you been to initial.

At that point, IMO, the underwriter will likely require you flying around with someone that know's what's going on for prly 100 hrs.

 

[HMR]

How does 1300 hrs eventually transition to PIC in the Socata TBM.

Many thanks.

I'm not sure what your post means since it looks like something written by MissKittyKat.

If you're a pilot looking to fly TBM's for a living, I think the best route would be to get a job at a place like Avex. I had friends who started flying Trinidad's there with relatively low time and eventually stepped up into the TBM's. They're the TBM experts and I hear they do a great job with training.

 

[NYYfan]

making the insurance company happy is number one. like every one else has said simcom is an excellent source for knowledge for initial training. I have about 200 hours in a tbm and i have been to sim com for pc 12 not for the tbm. The tbm is a great plane and relatively easy to understand the systems. its fun to fly and finding someone with a lot of experience in the airplane to fly with you for at least 100 hours is crucial. Good luck and enjoy.

 

[nosedragger]

My strong recommendation would be for you to call up Simcom and ask to be booked in a TBM 700 initial class. Pay for the training yourself, then come back here and post all over that you are now available for TBM 700 flying. In addition, until you get 500 hours or more in type, you should fly for free, or for $50/day or so.

That's my recommendation.

Many thanks for the ideas and I will follow up starting tomorrow.

 

[nosedragger]

making the insurance company happy is number one. like every one else has said simcom is an excellent source for knowledge for initial training. I have about 200 hours in a tbm and i have been to sim com for pc 12 not for the tbm. The tbm is a great plane and relatively easy to understand the systems. its fun to fly and finding someone with a lot of experience in the airplane to fly with you for at least 100 hours is crucial. Good luck and enjoy.

NYYfan, your are the kind of pilot that really helps a newbie. Thanks for your help and I will start tomorrow.

 

[nosedragger]

I'm not sure what your post means since it looks like something written by MissKittyKat.

If you're a pilot looking to fly TBM's for a living, I think the best route would be to get a job at a place like Avex. I had friends who started flying Trinidad's there with relatively low time and eventually stepped up into the TBM's. They're the TBM experts and I hear they do a great job with training.

Maybe you can remember when you started out in this business. I was taught to always be nice.

MrKittyKat.

 

[cforst513]

AHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! he called himself mrkittykat. dear lord, they're spawning!

 

[sydeseet]

My strong recommendation would be for you to call up Simcom and ask to be booked in a TBM 700 initial class. Pay for the training yourself, then come back here and post all over that you are now available for TBM 700 flying. In addition, until you get 500 hours or more in type, you should fly for free, or for $50/day or so.

That's my recommendation.

Tell me that I didn't just read someone advising a new pilot to pay for his own type training and then offer his services for free to build time. Tell me I didn't see that. Please, someone join me here in my HUGE objection to this notion. Want to bring the salary bar lower than it's already sinking? Pass this idea around. As if there isn't enough of this already. I'm sick.

My own advice is that you find a TBM operator and express your interest in working for them. If they like you they'll HIRE you into the right seat when they want a right seater and you'll have your foot in the door. Or they'll give you the number to another operator they know from school or the FBO telegraph and you may have an "in" there. If you go pay for the training up front you might as well start a 12 month stopwatch until the training means nothing again because this is how the insurance companies will see it. Buying the training with no chance of immediately using it profitably is NOT the right thing to do.

GVJeff, seriously, you were being sarcastic right???????

 

[icefr8dawg]

You go to Reading and wiggle your way into the right seat of one until they give you a job. That's if they still fly them at Quest, I mean Skibble, i mean labquest They do have some very nice 58 model barons there too.

 

[NYYfan]

Hey i gotta agree with sydeseet. Offering your time for free is not recommended no matter how badly you want to fly the aircraft. This will only set you up for abuse later on as well as bad wages when you do meet the insurance req. Best way to go is to go to quest diagnostics or try a tbm service center such as columbia airservice in groton ct they specialize in tbm s and cheyennes and they also have a charter dept with a c2 (if you meet 135 mins). Also keep in mind that the tbm is designed to appeal to the single pilot owner flown mission. This makes it tough for logging time but many of these owners wouldnt mind having another set of eyes backing them up on long flights with their families in the back. Try to meet some of these owners and negotiate a daily price and some stick time to get current. Just dont forget your signoffs before logging any time (high perf, high alt, complex).
hope that helps, good luck.

 

[GVJeff]

GVJeff, seriously, you were being sarcastic right???????

Yes, I was absolutely being sarcastic. Those that know me know that I am the #1 opponent to working for a penny less than the market rate.

 

[icefr8dawg]

How does 1300 hrs eventually transition to PIC in the Socata TBM.

Many thanks.

How bout forget about flying that TBM thing and get yourself a cargo job in a twin? You've got over 1200 total, I'm sure there's an operator in your area that's hiring.
Unless you just want to fly the tbm to fly the tbm. I'd love to fly a tbm...Avenger that is. Me'n George the first.

 

[nosedragger]

How bout forget about flying that TBM thing and get yourself a cargo job in a twin? You've got over 1200 total, I'm sure there's an operator in your area that's hiring.
Unless you just want to fly the tbm to fly the tbm. I'd love to fly a tbm...Avenger that is. Me'n George the first.

icefr8dawg, ...after all the keyboarding, I'm going freight dawgin' as you suggest until I get the insurance happy and think things over. I have gotten a lot of good advice from everyone. Thanks and Good luck.

 

[icefr8dawg]

np. Whereabouts do you live maybe we can point you towards a decent operator.

 

[nosedragger]

np. Whereabouts do you live maybe we can point you towards a decent operator.

Houston is home. Thanks