So much for looking out for the guy you fly with.

[JAFI]

Ignoring a drinking problem does not get that person into a program that will help them. If they refuse to make the call and you don't, all you are doing is putting some one else (in the air or on the road) at risk for injury or death. You are not doing any one a favor by putting your head in the sand.

 

[AA717driver]

One more reason to get rid of UAX

What, and lose all that feed? Yuppy, you're clearly not cut out for management.

TC

 

[sstearns2]

....

Easy guys... this guy has not yet faced trial so he is currently innocent and there may well be two sides to the story.

Anyone know if he was fired that day? If he failed any kind of substance test then he would have been.

Cheers,
Scott

 

[acaTerry]

U.S. passenger plane pilot accused of flying drunk


DENVER (Reuters) - The first officer of a United Express flight has been indicted on charges of piloting a commercial airliner while drunk during a flight from Austin, Texas, to Denver in December.
The federal grand jury indictment, returned late on Wednesday against co-pilot xxxxxxxxx, 32, of Norfolk, Virginia, gave no details of the alleged incident other than to say that United Express Flight 7687 was operated by Shuttle America, Inc.
Jeffrey Dorschner, a spokesman for the Attorney's Office in Denver, gave no information about how or why xxxxxxx was suspected of flying under the influence, except to say that:
"During the flight, the pilot had concerns."
Dorschner said the plane was not being flown erratically. A source close to the case said, "Passengers were never in danger."
Attorney John Walsh said special agents of the Transportation Department's Office of Inspector General, who investigated the alleged crime, "are in the process of locating xxxxx."
(Editing by Xavier Briand)
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did the Captain rat him out?

xxx'ed out his name just because

Covering up for a pilot who is drunk on duty is not watching out for your counterpart. It's like having your platoon wiped out because the guy on watch slept through it.
If a guy can't even show the maturity to not fly drunk, well then, you don't belong in an airplane.
Was the drunk watching out for his partner? Obviously not. His drinking is more important than the lives of those he flies.
Your term of "ratting him out" is no way fitting. Ratting out is when a guy takes some sodas to the hotel and you tell on him. It's $1.50 worth of soda vs. the possibility of killing 50+ people who did nothing wrong but trust a guy with their lives.

 

[737tanker]

Covering up for a pilot who is drunk on duty is not watching out for your counterpart

Covering up is putting your own career on the line. There was a Captain who flew for a Commuter in the 90s whose F/O flew intoxicated. The F/O was turned in by a gate agent. The FAA revoked the Captain's license because they said he should have known he was intoxicated. After a couple of years the Captain had to retake the flight test for all of his ratings, from Private thru ATP.

 

[DeucesWild]

Word on the street is the FO didn't only get the cute FA, but he got them both. One pissed off CA!!

 

[CA1900]

How soon we forget...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/america-west-pilotss-bar-tab

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Back to the thread. Guppy you want to turn this into the "other" guys fault. I said it before, I guess I will repeat myself, if the guy shows up at lobby and doesn't seem ready to go I will suggest to him that he needs to find a way off the trip, call in sick, whatever. If he doesn't take that advice or I don't notice (he says hi and sits in the back of the van or whatever) it is most definitely not on me.

I have been intoxicated many times and you can post the definition all you want the end result is the same. You know when you are drunk. You might be one of those guys who has a few, or more, and still think you are ok to drive. Guess what, you're not.

These threads ALWAYS turn into why the other guy didn't save the day. Well guess what, for every one of these idiotic stories there are probably dozens of stories where the other guy talked him into calling in sick. That SHOULD piss us off that your flying partners are putting us all at risk. Not only your life and the pax but also your livelihood. How many smoking holes do you think it will take to tank your lifestyle? Instead we sound like a bunch of welfare mama's decrying our bad luck that the bad man didn't take care of us.

Cry me a f****** river. Give it a rest and show up to work sober. Not a tough concept.

+1


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