Snake Behind the Instrument Panel

[PDH]

How the heck would you respond to this?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197976,00.html

 

[FN FAL]

How the heck would you respond to this?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197976,00.html

Just like Samuel L Jackson..."We got snakes on a plane and I hope they burn in hell!"

 

[PDH]

I would be squealing like a little girl. There's two things in life I hate--snakes and Michael Moore documentaries.

 

[Gorilla]

How about vultures on a plane? No web source, but a guy years ago, flying a Grumman AA-1b with the canopy open, angled into a vulture which ended up inside with him. It sat on his bag in the rear of the A/C, and stared at him over his shoulder while he did an emergency landing.

After landing, the vulture took a huge dump on both his bag, AND the front seat, before flying off.

Snakes are cool. Please don't kill them. Caveat - if it's poisonous, and you are in a bad situation, like this guy, stomp it, but generally it's best to let 'em go. They are incredibly important for rodent control.

 

[Guitar rocker]

If they have slanted eyes, your fate is pending as they are poisonous...if they have round eyes, they are your friend....non poisonous.

 

[I_Love_Lamp]

If they have slanted eyes, your fate is pending as they are poisonous...if they have round eyes, they are your friend....non poisonous.

Just like humans.

 

[MFRskyknight]

If they have slanted eyes, your fate is pending as they are poisonous...if they have round eyes, they are your friend....non poisonous.

I haven't heard that one, but I don't think I'd like to get close enough to see their eyes before I find out. You can usually tell by the shape of their head. Venomous ones have wider heads to accomodate their poison glands.

MFR

 

[Guitar rocker]

Just like humans.

Yah, thats too funny!

 

[Guitar rocker]

I haven't heard that one, but I don't think I'd like to get close enough to see their eyes before I find out. You can usually tell by the shape of their head. Venomous ones have wider heads to accomodate their poison glands.

MFR

A veterinarian told me about the slanted eye thing here recently. News to me as well.

 

[Guitar rocker]

This was a story that was told a long time ago during the Constellation days.....maybe someone out there who flew those or knows about the story can add to the validity of this one.

Story goes like this. This one particular constellation had flown some snakes as cargo. At their destination, they off loaded the snakes and went on their way. Over the course of several weeks, the flight controls became somewhat more difficult to operate, or at least more noticeably so on this one aircraft. In time, it was well out of the norm and was written up. When they looked into the controls, they found tons of dead snakes (and some living) lying around which caused the controls to be stiff. They had to gut em all out of there....I can imagine that had to have been a lot of snakes. Guess a few got out and found their way to the controls and set up shop there.

 

[FL420]

If they have slanted eyes, your fate is pending as they are poisonous...if they have round eyes, they are your friend....non poisonous.

You know, I'm too lazy to look this up right now but I have been to three survival schools, including jungle survival, and I don't recall anything about the shape of a snake's eyes being related to the toxicity of their bite. Until someone proves me wrong, I'm calling a tentative BS on this one.

 

[G21Agoose]

If they have slanted eyes, your fate is pending as they are poisonous...if they have round eyes, they are your friend....non poisonous.

What a load of horse********************. If you ever meet a Black Mamba; throw away your stupid "Snake Identification Using Eye Shapes" book and RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Axel]

Pit vipers, such as rattlers, moccassins and copperheads have what is called hemotoxic venom; it attacks tissues. These snakes have a vertically slitted pupil.

Non venomous snakes have a round pupil. However, neurotoxic snakes such as cobras, krait and coral snakes, etc. also have round pupils. Fortunately, the only species of this kind native to the US is the coral snake This makes the slit-eye/round eye comparison valid in most cases; at least in North America.

Coral snakes can be identified by the colored bands that run circumferentially for the entire length of their body. Red bands bordering yellow bands identify a coral snake, red bands separated from the yellow bands by a black band identify it as a non-venomous king snake. Thus the rhyme:

Red touch black, friend to Jack. Red touch yellow, kill a fellow.

Killing a venomous snake is self defense. Killing a non venomous snake is ignorant. Unless, of course, that non venomous snake is your neighbor's escaped 12 foot python and it is constricting your child or dog.

 

[FL420]

Fortunately, the only species of this kind native to the US is the coral snake This makes the slit-eye/round eye comparison valid in most cases; at least in North America............Killing a venomous snake is self defense. Killing a non venomous snake is ignorant. Unless, of course, that non venomous snake is your neighbor's escaped 12 foot python and it is constricting your child or dog.

And there are always those idiots who illegally import exotic species of animals(including poisonous snakes) and then manage to lose control of them or sell them to other idiots who lose control of them.

Poisonous snakes can also import themselves on ships and aircraft. Or is that another form of illegal immigration?

 

[FN FAL]

I would be squealing like a little girl.

Uhhhh, this here river don't go nowhere near Aintry.

 

[G21Agoose]

Pit vipers, such as rattlers, moccassins and copperheads have what is called hemotoxic venom; it attacks tissues. These snakes have a vertically slitted pupil.

Non venomous snakes have a round pupil. However, neurotoxic snakes such as cobras, krait and coral snakes, etc. also have round pupils. Fortunately, the only species of this kind native to the US is the coral snake This makes the slit-eye/round eye comparison valid in most cases; at least in North America.

Coral snakes can be identified by the colored bands that run circumferentially for the entire length of their body. Red bands bordering yellow bands identify a coral snake, red bands separated from the yellow bands by a black band identify it as a non-venomous king snake. Thus the rhyme:

Red touch black, friend to Jack. Red touch yellow, kill a fellow.

Killing a venomous snake is self defense. Killing a non venomous snake is ignorant. Unless, of course, that non venomous snake is your neighbor's escaped 12 foot python and it is constricting your child or dog.

Axel-
Thank you for your intelligent, informed and interesting answer. However, based on the original thread you try identifying the eye shape of the snake in the cockpit while flying an ILS at minimums. Oh, and if you're in the US just hope it's not a coral snake (or an escaped mamba!)

 

[Guitar rocker]

What a load of horse********************. If you ever meet a Black Mamba; throw away your stupid "Snake Identification Using Eye Shapes" book and RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.....FL420 and Goose....maybe not all poisonous snakes have vertical pupils but generally speaking that aspect is true. Refer to what Axel said as well.

http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/FreePubs/pdfs/uh124.pdf#search='identifying%20poisonous%20snakes'

 

[Occam's Razor]

Thus the rhyme:

Red touch black, friend to Jack. Red touch yellow, kill a fellow.

Here's the ryhme I use:

"If it's a snake,
Bash it until it's dead."

I hate snakes. It's irrational, sure, but Pat Robertson is irrational and old ladies send him their social security checks.

When snakes are involved, I prefer to excercise my Darwin-given rights and position on the food chain...and kill them.

I'm not alone....

"Snakes! Why does it have to be snakes?"

- Indiana Jones, "Raiders Of The Lost Ark"
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[G21Agoose]

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Department of Vertebrates

Herpetology Collection​

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BLACK MAMBAS (Dendroaspis polylepis) (Very Dangerous)

http://www.nfi.org.za/herps/snakes/blackmamba.jpg


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This specimen is hardly ever pitch black in colour but the lining of the mouth being dark is where the name has derived from. Of all the African snakes the Black Mamba is the most feared and is known for being aggressive when agitated or confronted and will strike with deadly precision. The outer colour varies between a pale grey-green to a gunmetal blue. The head is also distinctive in being narrowly shaped and having round eyes with round pupils. The snake being neurotoxic causes respiratory failure and leaves the pray paralysed which causes death in 7-15 hours.​

The average length of a specimen varies between 2 to 2.5 metres but an exceptional case was recorded of 4.5 metres. This snake has quite a large distribution stretching from Senegal (West Africa) to Somalia in the East down to Pondoland (Port St Johns) including Namibia and Angola. They are absent from Equatorial forests and desert areas. They prefer more open Bushveld / Savanna with an attitude not exceeding 1500 metres.
A batch of 12 to 17 eggs are usually laid but can be as few as 9 or 10 and are oval shaped hatching between 80-90 days. The young are usually dark in colour and measures between 40 to 60 cm in length.

These ain't no pesky rattler, boy.

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[Guitar rocker]

Department of Vertebrates

Herpetology Collection​

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BLACK MAMBAS (Dendroaspis polylepis) (Very Dangerous)​

http://www.nfi.org.za/herps/snakes/blackmamba.jpg​

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This specimen is hardly ever pitch black in colour but the lining of the mouth being dark is where the name has derived from. Of all the African snakes the Black Mamba is the most feared and is known for being aggressive when agitated or confronted and will strike with deadly precision. The outer colour varies between a pale grey-green to a gunmetal blue. The head is also distinctive in being narrowly shaped and having round eyes with round pupils. The snake being neurotoxic causes respiratory failure and leaves the pray paralysed which causes death in 7-15 hours.​

The average length of a specimen varies between 2 to 2.5 metres but an exceptional case was recorded of 4.5 metres. This snake has quite a large distribution stretching from Senegal (West Africa) to Somalia in the East down to Pondoland (Port St Johns) including Namibia and Angola. They are absent from Equatorial forests and desert areas. They prefer more open Bushveld / Savanna with an attitude not exceeding 1500 metres.
A batch of 12 to 17 eggs are usually laid but can be as few as 9 or 10 and are oval shaped hatching between 80-90 days. The young are usually dark in colour and measures between 40 to 60 cm in length.​

These ain't no pesky rattler, boy.​

Thats great dude...looks like you got a hard on for the black mamba.