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PC12Cowboy

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Any one got any more info...was it AMflight going to reno????
And does anyomne know the pilot...and now just his family?
 
when was this? DO you have a link with more info? I flew yeaterday from SEA to the east coast and had alot of ice in the climb.
 
saltyworks said:
when was this? DO you have a link with more info? I flew yeaterday from SEA to the east coast and had alot of ice in the climb.

It was a Cirrus. They've found wreckage.
 
just found out it was a cirrus and it was headed for DVO Gnoss field from reno no survivors...1 soul on board....no info if he pulled the chute! God speed fellow pilot:(
 
Chute found distant from the airplane apparently.




One dead in plane crash near ski resort

Associated Press

SODA SPRINGS, Calif. - Placer County Sheriff's officials said Monday they discovered the body of the pilot of a small plane that disappeared Sunday from radar after it left Reno-Tahoe International Airport and went down near the Sugar Bowl Ski Resort.

Authorities said they had not identified the pilot, who was found dead about noon Monday.

The plane's pilot told the Oakland Center air traffic control facility in Fremont on Sunday night that his wings were icing and he was going down, said Donn Walker, a Los Angeles-based Federal Aviation Administration spokesman. At the time, he was over a rugged area that is only accessible by snowmobile, helicopter or ski because of the heavy snow pack.

A snow-groomer at the Sugar Bowl ski area reported around 1:45 a.m. that he had found parts of an aircraft and a parachute. A debris field was found crossing the ski runs and led to boundary of the ski area, Capt. Rick Armstrong said Monday.

The Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board also participated in the investigation and search. In addition, more than 20 Sugar Bowl ski patrollers helped in the search, said Kristin York, marketing manager for the ski park.

The ski park delayed opening runs on Mt. Lincoln in the southeast area of the resort until the search was complete, York said.

"There was a parachute found at the top of Mt. Lincoln," she said. "It appears the plane has crashed behind the mountain."

Early Monday, it was snowing at the ski park and visibility was poor, she said. But by midmorning the skies were starting to clear, which enabled rescuers to use helicopters, she said.

The four-seat plane was manufactured by Cirrus Aviation, the world's second-largest manufacturer of single-engine planes. It was en route from Reno to Oakland International Airport, the FAA's Walker said.
 
PC12Cowboy said:
Any one got any more info...was it AMflight going to reno????
And does anyomne know the pilot...and now just his family?

So where would have you gotten that it was a AMFlight plane?
 
The new doctor-killer?

Did the plane have deicing equipment installed?

Anything about the pilot's experiance?
 
A Possibility & Question

GravityHater said:
Chute found distant from the airplane apparently.

"There was a parachute found at the top of Mt. Lincoln," she said. "It appears the plane has crashed behind the mountain."
----AND----
The four-seat plane was manufactured by Cirrus Aviation, the world's second-largest manufacturer of single-engine planes.

Gravity, the airplane may have crashed further down the mountainside then the parachute did, even though they were both still attached. If the parachute was found separated from the wreckage, it also could've been sheered off on impact if enough metal got thrown around. Just a couple possibilities, outside of the idea that the parachute came apart before impact.

ALSO,
Did I miss where Cirrus became the 2nd largest SE aircraft manufacturers? I thought Cessna and Piper had that pretty well sowed up!?
 
User997 said:
Gravity, the airplane may have crashed further down the mountainside then the parachute did, even though they were both still attached. If the parachute was found separated from the wreckage, it also could've been sheered off on impact if enough metal got thrown around. Just a couple possibilities, outside of the idea that the parachute came apart before impact.

No disagreement from me on the *possible* causes for this finding. My post merely parrotted the article.


ALSO,
Did I miss where Cirrus became the 2nd largest SE aircraft manufacturers? I thought Cessna and Piper had that pretty well sowed up!?

Check out GAMA's site. The figures for 2004 will come out on Feb 14. For 2003, Cessna shipped 841 units (includes jets) and Cirrus 469. Diamond 228, Beech 263 TheNewPiperCo 229. So, I guess yes is the answer. :)


PS It is quite possible that the statistical analysis of all Cirrus crashes over a 10 year period will be of similar numbers to those of other breeds, the current spate could be an anomalous blip or a media perception. I think it is too early to tell.
 
Sadly, the parachute was deployed too late to help...

From Aero-news.net

"It was an airplane with an attached parachute," he said. "Unfortunately we think it was deployed too late, the airplane was going too fast and it just ripped the parachute off the plane, and we think the plane continued onto the top of Mt. Lincoln on the other side down near Onion Valley." Some media entities are quoting an unnamed FAA source as saying that the aircraft exceeded 350 mph at some point in the accident -- well beyond the limits imposed on the chute or the airframe for certification. "

The "he" in this story is a Sheriff's Department Captain
 
GravityHater said:
Check out GAMA's site. The figures for 2004 will come out on Feb 14. For 2003, Cessna shipped 841 units (includes jets) and Cirrus 469. Diamond 228, Beech 263 TheNewPiperCo 229. So, I guess yes is the answer. :)

Wow, thanks for the numbers! I find those numbers very interesting! Can't believe Diamond is producing as many as Piper.
 
PC12Cowboy said:
Dx...only amflight pushes around here to make the flight...or redding aero....so I was curious...not stating fact

I can personally attest to a handful of times this winter that the Redding Aero pilots who fly to Reno and northen California towns had reservations about launching due to bad weather. and each time, the company stood behind the pilots decision. I am one of those pilots.
 

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