Single Engine ATP? What good is it anyway.

[UndauntedFlyer]

As far as I know without research, a single engine ATP really has no purpose from a regulatory standpoint. And for that matter what good is a multiengine ATP without a type rating either?

So I guess the question really is: Are there any Part 121 operations that fly single engine airplanes? And are there any Part 121 operations that fly multiengine airplanes that are less than 12,500 pounds. If so can someone please post information on where and what type of airplanes are used?

Or has there been a change in Part 135 so that an ATP is required for some of those operations under the FAA's "Equal level of Safety" concept? I really don't keep up very much on Part 135.

 

[NoahWerka]

SE ATP Keeps you from having to take the ATP written if you don't, or can't get the practical done for the ATP-Multi within the 2 year limitation. If you can get the ATP SE within the time frame, you won't have to take the ATP written again.

 

[j41driver]

I knew a guy that owned a C210 and did his ATP in it so he could qualify for reduced insurance rates.

 

[Geronimo4497]

91K requires an ATP when operating a multi engine aircraft, no matter the weight.

Singed,
Loser with a SE ATP :0

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

91K requires an ATP when operating a multi engine aircraft, no matter the weight.

Singed,
Loser with a SE ATP :0

Sorry but what is 91K?

 

[FlyingFisherman]

Sorry but what is 91K?

Open up the book that is FAR away and take AIM at the words. Whole lot of neat stuff in that thing.

 

[sleddriver71]

Open up the book that is FAR away and take AIM at the words. Whole lot of neat stuff in that thing.

Could you post that again in English? What are you trying to say? Where I work, you don't need an ATP but they pay you more if you have one.

 

[MauleSkinner]

Or has there been a change in Part 135 so that an ATP is required for some of those operations under the FAA's "Equal level of Safety" concept? I really don't keep up very much on Part 135.

§ 135.243 Pilot in command qualifications.
(a) No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations -
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.

Only been that way for 25 years that I know of.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

So it looks like Part 135 scheduled passenger flights in multiengine airplanes require an ATP rated pilot. That seems reasonable. Thanks for the information Mauleskinner.

Any information on the single engine ATP? Is there any operator that requires an ASEL ATP by FAR?

 

[FlyingFisherman]

Could you post that again in English? What are you trying to say? Where I work, you don't need an ATP but they pay you more if you have one.

Was getting at that all the info on 91(k) can be found in the FAR/AIM. Lots of neat stuff in that little guidebook of guidelines and suggestions.