Simulator Lease for Checkride Only?

[Lear70]

A bunch of us were thinking about this the other day for friends who are furloughed and want to get competitive for the few jobs there are,,, Does anyone out there know if there's a place that would simply rent their sim and a check airman for a Type Rating ride without having to do an entire class? No flaming about pay for training, etc, this is just a curiosity thread...

Assuming someone had extensive 757/767 experience and wanted to get the type but the employer wasn't willing to give it to them or had shut down and other jobs required a type, could you just go out and buy it without extensive class?

Or, on a similar thought, someone has lots of Learjet time and lots of books to study with and wants to just take the ride?

For example, a 757/767 full class and type rating costs about $16,000. A 3 hour sim session type ride only would run about $2,500 to $3,500.

A 737 full class and type rating costs about $6,500. That same 3 hour type ride would cost about $1,800 to $2,250.

Corporate stuff, same deal for say a Challenger 604. The 604 is the same cockpit layout and systems (with two exceptions) as a CRJ, but the 604 class runs about $25,000. The 3 hour type ride would cost about $3,000 to $4,000.

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Yeah,

Im sure Flightsafety or Simuflite would love to make $3,000 instead of $30,000.

And Im sure the insurance companys would love to hear you just did 2 or 3 hours in the sim and read the books at home.

"I mean, its just a little bizjet, whats the big deal, I can fly a CRJ"

Shiiit, after you do the 2 hour initial in the 604, just hop over to the Global Express and do the 30 minute differences type ride!

 

[Bandit60]

I have to laugh at the last comment. I though it was great sarcasim

 

[Lear70]

*sigh* First, the word is SARCASM (no I in there).

Secondly, since I edited my profile to exclude stats, my background includes King Airs, Lears, 727's, 737's, and now the CRJ thanks to furlough. The Lears I've flown would include 24's, 25's, 35's, 31's, 55's, and 60's, most of that in the corporate world, as well as 727 Corporate Ops, passengers, and freight, for nearly 7000 hours total, 5000 of that turbine command time. You're not bashing on some guy that has only flown 152's then jumped straight into the regionals - to tell the truth I never thought I'd be at a regional, wasn't in the plans prior to 9/11.

Given that the 604 is nearly identical to the CRJ-200 in terms of systems, operation, and actual handling, and having extensive corporate ops command experience, yes, I believe that I personally would have no problem reading up on the aircraft differences, doing a warm-up sim to adjust to any differences in sim handling characteristics, then doing a type ride without a problem, as well as ease in flying the line. It's an airplane, not a space shuttle.

In my PROFESSIONAL opinion, after reading the AFM from both aircraft, the two should be the same type rating, and I really don't give a sh*t whether the insurance companies or the overpriced FSI / SF people like it or not (actually I think it's the latter that has pressured the FAA into keeping the type ratings separate).

When you have more overall experience in the industry than I do (that means having flown Part 91, 121, 125, 135, freight, pax, and government DOD work, not to mention flight time), feel free to comment again. Until then, if you have nothing constructive to add, go find another thread to trash...

Now, anyone have anything USEFUL to add to the discussion?

 

[CLCAP]

Even though I agree that you could fly the 604 just by doing differences training - they are still quite different than most people think. The 604 has no spoilerons (only 2 panels per wing) a different fuel system, one less TRU, bigger screens in the cockpit with slightly different presentation, FMS 6000 (most have the performance plus package) - some have auto throttles, carbon brakes, and I bet quite a few differences I can't think about.