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Tinpusher

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Anyone have any idea what the washout rate is at Simuflight...I am scheduled for GIV Initial an am feeling a bit intimidated....I recently finished FA10 recurrent there but I have only a few hours in the Gulfstream. Seems like a lot of money riding on this! Thanks for your replies......


Tinpusher 5500 hrs 2500 turbine
 
I wouldn't sweat it too much... With your time and having experience in the FA-10 and FA-50 you will be fine... just study hard...

The biggest challenge for you will be the Glass Cockpit transition... Don't be intimidated by it, accept it as a challenge... once you fly glass you will never want to go back to steam gauges...

Good Luck!
 
I think the high washout rates were in the past, not so much today. Get real familiar with the FMS and all the automation early on. Everything else you've seen before.
 
do-good

simuflite wants you to pass. Never forget that. They want you to do good and then report back to all your buddies what a great place they have and what great people work there! (For the most part that's true). Remember that they are in business and they have competition. Even though it's like drinking from a firehose, they won't put you thru things that you CAN'T do. Most of us would trade places with you in a heartbeat, so just study hard, try and relax and remember you could be working at Target!!
 
I went to Simuflite for my initial King Air 350 type rating with only 3 hours or so in the airplane and no previous turbine experience. The checkride I took was also for my ATP license. I have to say that it was the best performance that I ever gave on a checkride and I have nothing but praise for the folks at Simuflite. I felt like the training was quick yet thorough and I don't know of anywhere else that would give you such quality training without feeling like you were in a "meat grinder".

Bottom line - don't sweat the training. They will provide you with study aids and homework designed to make you remember all the important stuff and everything else for that matter.

See if you can stay at the Harvey Hotel when you go to Dallas (I assume that's where you are going). You get 2 free drink coupons per night, a 15% discount on other meals and free breakfast.

Good luck and enjoy your stay in DFW. Be thankful you're not there in the middle of August.

Cheers,
Skyking
 
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harvey suites

Nah.....stay at the Harvey Suites across the road. Same free drinks, and your room is about twice the size of the Harvey and it's really quiet. About the same price too. And if money is no object stay up at the Embassy Suites. There is a Bass Pro Shop attached and a couple of fine eating places also.
 
Take it easy

Tinpusher,

Didn't know there were many "washouts" over there. Believe me, you'd have to be a major foul up to bust out of Simuflite. Worst case I've heard of is someone coming back later to finish their ride due to minor problems. The one's who do bust probably don't have the real credentials to be there anyway.

I've received three jet types and countless 61-58's there over the last 15 years. The staff is professional, courteous and friendly. They are some of the best folks I've met in this business and will make you feel comortable. As long as you and your training partner do your parts, you will pass.

You need to do three things:

1. Study the manuals before you go... limitations, systems, performance, etc...

2. Utilize the CPT and the FMS trainer after hours if needed.

3. Get your life squared away so you can concentrate on nothing else for 23 days or so.

Also, very important; if your partner is not towing the line, it will reflect on you. A good type ride depends heavily on a good training partner/FO. I don't know your training partner situation but this should also be acceptable before starting. Don't be afraid to make changes if needed. I've seen guys go through the entire process with an ahole for a partner. Makes the ride much tougher.

Stay at the Embassy, Bass Pro. Best place in town. Double dip with airline and hotel points too.

I'd wish you luck... but luck is for those who are unprepared!
 
You or your company is paying big money for Simuflite to get you trained, not fail you... If I can pass it anybody can...
Good Luck
FD
 
SimuFlite



I was once given 3 West African pilots for G-IV training who had first gone to the SimuFlite G-IV Initial Course. They came to me with, fundamentally, a certificate of attendance. So it is possible to fail.

SimuFlite (and FSI) offers a glass cockpit familiarization/refresher class as a lead-in to the G-IV Initial course that I send my non-Gulfstream rated pilots to and which I would recommend to you.

It's a good competent program, the Director of Training is the former Chief of Stan- Eval for the Gulfstreams in the 89th Air Wing at Andrews AFB in Washington, DC and a former Chief Pilot for a GV operation.

GV

Oh, I almost forgot the important stuff. The Marriott North is a short commute to SimuFlite down an airport service road and has a JW's restaurant. Los Colinas has a great TPC course and Star Canyon is a superb place if you like Southwestern cuisine. Have fun!








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I have been at simuflite for a year in the Falcon program working as a right seater for clients without sim partners. I have sat in through several check rides and have not seen one fail yet(on my watch). However having said that there are people who do. If you go in with the right attitude and study your butt off you should do fine.
 
really,

you gotta be a MOW-RON to fail FSI/Simulflite training.

Not that they "give" you the rating, but your employer is paying a lot of money and they give you more sim time than the average dumb pilot needs to grasp the fundamentals and pass to ATP standards.

OH, Avoid the Embassy Suites South (it smells and is overcrowded with families looking for the free beer and breakfast shiit all weekend), go North instead, I hear its better. They also opened a brand new Courtyard across the street and they have working suites with refrigerators (read beer)
and I personally think Marriott rewards are better.

Rememeber, school is not all work, have some fun and learna few things. Its just an airplane right?
 
I personally don't believe that busting at Simuflite would make someone a 'MOW RON'. However I have seen a couple of people fail over the many years I have been going there. Usually it is someone who was moving far beyond their current capabilities. One case in point that I remember was a pilot in the Lear 20 program. The biggest thing that this pilot had flown before was a Seneca. Class work I was told was fine, but the sim was something else. This pilot was way beyond their capabilities. A little more experience and more time, it would have been a different story. Simuflite, like FSI, doesn't want you to fail. It reflects badly on them. You do have to study and know the material. You have to put in an effort. It is not beer and party time.

That said, a couple of observations. One, this is a good time to network. Spread out your roots, met new people and develop contacts. If you don't already, get some business cards. The reading room and cafateria are good places to meet others. Next, Simuflite, like FSI, have pilot enrichment class. When ever I am there, I take as many as I can. You are investing in your career. Make as good as an investment as you can.

Have fun.
 
Ahh "flydog",

Who would I talk to about the $15k for the G-IV type @ SIMUFLITE, you can send me a PM... :p
 
SimuFlite

Yep, last offer I got from SimuFlite was $24,600, down from $32,000 originally. Competition is a good thing.

GV
 

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