Simuflite C550

[rchcfi]

Happy Holidays!!!

My company just leased in a Citation II and asked if I would want to be the SIC. Of course I said yes, but I have a few questions maybe you can help me with.

Do you have any days off or is it a straight through program? I was told I am to be typed and receive my ATP as well. When and how is the ATP given? The final sim session? Having only 10 hours turbine time, what can I do to start preparing? My chief pilot told me not to study anything except our SOP, expanded checklists, and flows. He said Simuflite is very good at what they do, so don't try to cram for the class in a week. I guess I'm just a little nervous, yet very excited.

Cheers,
RCHCFI (Starting to like the smell of Jet-A)

 

[milehigh6080]

Congrats

Wow, Merry Christmas to you! Congratulations. Enjoy the flight levels.

-Milehigh

 

[ultrarunner]

If you've taken the ATP written and you meet the experience requirements to take the 100% type ride in the simulator, your type ride, 135 check and ATP will all be done at the same time in the sim.

ATP and type-rides are basically the same. If you're just doing SIC, these checks will also fulfill the 135 SIC equipment check.

Grab the ATP PTS (its also for type ratings) and the Simuflite initial manuals and stard reading.

 

[FlierDude]

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Another good thing to do is know what each light on the annunciator means, which ones bring on a Master Caution, etc. It's a great airplane, with much redundancy.

Congrats!

 

[Rick1128]

While Simuflite and FSI are good at what they do, you still need to prepare for the process. First if you have your ATp written, be sure to inform, Simuflite ahead of time. Not all their examiners can issue ATP's. What I found works good for me is to read through the FSI or Simuflite book a couple of times before attending class. Not so much as to KNOW the aircraft, more along the line of becoming familar with the aircraft and its systems. I also make notes of thing I really am having problems with understanding. Simuflite used to have a day of class on the Sunday before the school started for the guys who hadn't operated jets before. I don't know if they still do it though. Don't be afraid to ask questions during and after class if you do not understand. Also both FSI and Simuflite offer 'Enhancement courses". When ever I go, I take all of them I can. They usually have all sorts of good information. While you think it might overload you. The very short break in pace usually helps me clear my head and they always have good information that can be applied to whatever course I am attending.

I do understand where you are at. I am starting class on the G4 next month, so I am going through it now also.

Good luck.

 

[GVFlyer]

I do understand where you are at. I am starting class on the G4 next month, so I am going through it now also.

Good luck.

Congratulations, Rick! Looks like Santa brought you something good.

GV

 

[Rythm3]

This link should answer your question about the schedule at Simuflite.

http://www.simuflite.com/training/citation2/c2135ine_a.html

 

[Rick1128]

Actually GV, I was scheduled to go in September. But I had to cover an airplane in Afghanistan for three months. So I paid a very respectable price for this type. On the other hand, right now I look very good in my boss's eyes.

 

[miles otoole]

Actually GV, I was scheduled to go in September. But I had to cover an airplane in Afghanistan for three months. So I paid a very respectable price for this type. On the other hand, right now I look very good in my boss's eyes.

A respectable price? As a civilian flying fixed wing? Gee, I am sure you were in harms way.

 

[Rick1128]

Miles,

Despite what the media is saying, I felt safer in Afghanistan than I ever have in Newark. Of course that is really not saying much. It was good duty and great flying. I even ran across a reservist who in his other life is a FAA inspector out of the Atlanta FSDO. As for the price, I had to go over there on very short notice and reschedule my class. Missed a couple of very good trips that I was looking forward to.

 

[mxflyer]

The citiation is a simple airplane. When you study, keep it that way. Dont get tuned in to memorizing every number. Study the checklists. Know exactly where to find info such as the emergency pressuriztion checklist. Know the flight profiles and how to set the a/c up for each situation. Know the system but dont become an engineer on them....keep it simple and you will do fine.

ce500/650 PPE

 

[rchcfi]

Thank you everyone for the great information. One week to go with lots of stuff to do before then.


RCHCFI

 

[340drvr]

Check out http://www.jetreview.com/index.htm for some pre-class study material, and, congrats and Happy New Year!

 

[some_dude]

I wuld try, if possible, to learn the basic limitations (airspeeds and weights, that sort of thing) and the memory items, before you get there. It is not essential, but I find it eases the stress level if I don't have to worry about memorizing that stuff while I'm there.

 

[HMR]

The Citation II is probably the best plane to get your first type/ATP in. It's a jet powered C172. It really is that easy to fly. Doing your ATP at Simuflight or FSI is alot easier than with the local FSDO. Where I was based in SoCal the ATP was sometimes a two day checkride. First day was weather/regs, second day was systems and flight test. The Fed would ask the most esoteric, useless questions. I helped my buddy prepare for one of those and then I went to FSI for my initial type/ATP. What a difference. No weather, no regs, just systems and limitations.

Congratulations! Have fun and make sure your 8410 shows that you did a PIC check. I know an ATP ride is a PIC ride but I've seen it screwed up before when they send you to school as an "SIC".

 

[Jump Pilot]

One of the things I see new guys struggle with the most is power settings. Try to find out power settings for different configurations before you go in. What setting gives 180 clean, etc. One less thing to have to fumble for when you are shooting the NDB 26 single engine - no flap - circle to land on runway 9 at IAH.