Second chances

[Neolight77]

When people screw up in the airlines, pilots, that is, are they allowed second chances, or is it too hard to emerge unscathed in such a close-knit community where pilots are moving up from regionals about the same time? And is it the PEERS that keep someone from re-establishing themselves in a regional environment.

For those who need small words--Can a pilot mess up big time and still have a career in the regionals and beyond?

How forgiving is the pilot community?

 

[DirkkDiggler]

At what level are you saying the pilot screwed up? Are they already at a regional and if so, have they been there over a year with union protection? Are they flight instructing or doing some other type of non-regional flying such as hauling checks?

 

[350DRIVER]

what he said part II

When people screw up in the airlines

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[Tony Soprano]

Second Chance Losers

They usually end up working at the FAA as an Inspector...

 

[B190Captain]

Re: Second Chance Losers

They usually end up working at the FAA as an Inspector...

Ditto!

 

[Neolight77]

I was just curious about a rumor and how it affected the parties involved. I heard about it here--something about Skull and sexual harrassment accusations. So I don't know how long he worked previously, but, I'm guessing he was already at regional levels. So, has he learned and is able to continue a career or is he screwed for the rest of his life and chance of redemption--pilots regularly "harrass" FA's, it's usually just playing-- so did he just piss someone off? The FA's involved probably won't have too much of a problem working again, but are pilots treated the same?

I still here talk of the rumors and "fun" of it all while reading posts? I wonder what's really going on behind the scenes.

And while I'm at it, was the GAUT at the regionals, too?

 

[ERJDRVR]

It wasn't sexual harrassment.. That was his mistress he was banging on the Jet-Bridge...

He also told the Chief Pilot to go Fu%k himself... That probally went over the edge...

 

[350DRIVER]

The FA's involved probably won't have too much of a problem working again, but are pilots treated the same?

Comparing a pilot to a flight attendant with regards to "second chances" would be comparable to saying that a Mercedes drives the same as a Yugo, big difference if you ask me.. The fa's are pretty much a dime a dozen and they do not put nearly the time, training, money, etc, compared to what a pilot has invested by the time he reaches the regional or major level. After reading Regional FA's post I must say that they do bring a lot more "emotion" to work than most pilots. A f/a who was fired will not have nearly as difficult of a time getting a second chance as a pilot would.

As for pilots and second chances, that all depends.. A guy I know personally was fired by COEX then by GLA and is now flying at a smaller regional after making a brief stop at a third carrier before this gig. This really all depends, I think his silver tongue helped but I am sure what he has been able to do thus far is not the norm.

I think there is much more to Skull than what meets the eye, I think his wife had something to do with what happened and supposebly he is fighting this one to the end... I made a previous post and got multiple im's by our lovely fa's who have flown with him and that frequent this board so who really knows the entire story behind this.. I have somewhat of a hard time buying into the whole "jetway" incident but I was not there.. I would be willing to wager any amount of money that this was not really what lead to his firing.. I think if you did some research a fired bottle into an engine during a "test" may answer a few questions that you may still have regarding this.

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[godsgift2aviatn]

O.K. are you telling me someone was fool enough to have sex on a jet-bridge?