acpilot I am...PROFESSOR FATE! Joined Aug 27, 2006 Posts 2,462 Nov 24, 2011 #1 of 4 http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-24/Arizona-plane-crash/51377744/1
svcta "Kids these days"-AAflyer Joined Nov 14, 2004 Posts 1,767 Nov 26, 2011 #3 of 4 In a 690 Commander?
GravityHater Well-known member Joined Aug 12, 2004 Posts 1,168 Dec 2, 2011 #4 of 4 That is the effect of phx atc being expanded into mountains, and the local atc refusing to accommodate vfr traffic. They are lazy, we die. My opinion.
That is the effect of phx atc being expanded into mountains, and the local atc refusing to accommodate vfr traffic. They are lazy, we die. My opinion.