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[SF340Guy]

I am pissed that the RPC will be mailing unsolicited mailings to my unlisted home address. I am not a member of your organization, and I did not provide you with my mailing address, so keep your solicitations away from me.

Don't be fooled, this is exactly what we have now, not seperate but equal. SEPERATE BUT SEPERATE! This RPC Unity fool is quoting an airline CEO who calls this concept revolutionary. A CEO, being quoted in a union election, REALLY?

Ask Trans States Airlines if seperate is better? Compass and GoJet think so, but then again, those guys are the ones geting the upgrades, while the TSA guys are left to wither away, or apply to their own holding company for a job with a chance of upgrade, after starting over. Sound familiar? BTW, FAPA arranged that little gem, for you, a chance to fly the big bad bus.

After talking with several pilots in both groups it seems very obvious that FAPA has convinced their own membership, and is trying to convince the IBTs that seperate is better.

They use examples like AAG. Ask an Alaska pilot how they feel, knowing that under their new contract, ANYTHING can be outsourced to Horizon. I did, and the answer was "insecure, but confident, that AAG management would never outsource their Mainline." I don't know their management, but I know ours.

Management supports the RPC concept, they are trying to push their agenda of remaining seperate by telling the IBT that the 190s will be moved over to F9, and they will be hiring off the street for them. They are trying to break support for IBT. It only takes a few defectors and FAPA/RPC will have won. They will keep us seperate, and force their agenda on us. The SLI is meaningless until we are working under one contract. IBT will amalgamate, and provide you with the representation you need against hostile airline management. The time for lovey dovey is over.

Keep them out, tell FAPA/RPC no. The "Anything under 120,000lbs should be outsourced" concept is dead. We don't have to reign in scope, we have scope!!!

IBT357, One List, One Voice, One Contract! Cast your vote for True Unity!

 

[Megalops]

I received a flyer from IBT, that's different how? I'm not "pissed" .

 

[5-early]

Saab Guy,

You seem to be a strong supporter of the IBT, which is great and absolutely your right. As an IBT member, could you provide a list of things that they have accomplished to improve your quality of life over the past decade?

In other words, what specific improvements have been made by the IBT for your career in your time there? Work rules, pay, benefits, retirement..etc. There just seems to be much more bashing of a new product than selling your own. I'd like to hear some positives.

Thanks

 

[Bolo]

Saab Guy,

You seem to be a strong supporter of the IBT, which is great and absolutely your right. As an IBT member, could you provide a list of things that they have accomplished to improve your quality of life over the past decade?

In other words, what specific improvements have been made by the IBT for your career in your time there? Work rules, pay, benefits, retirement..etc. There just seems to be much more bashing of a new product than selling your own. I'd like to hear some positives.

Thanks

The cricket noise is deafening from SF340 Guy!

 

[SF340Guy]

The cricket noise is deafening from SF340 Guy!

Actually, I had a T-Ball game to attend.

This IBT has sucessfully defended our scope <=== everything else is gravy. Without it the F9 pilots would be a seperate group, able to be managements tool in the whipsaw game. Like I said above, ask Trans States how important scope is, or isn't in their case.

I am not a strong IBT supporter. I am a unity supporter. Give me UTU, CWA hell even UAW, but we work under One List, with One Voice, One Exco but most importantly One Contract. Anything less than that is unacceptable. It is only opening the door for management to creep in and divide us. If anyone of the previously listed unions could make a respectible run, I would consider supporting that option.

Saying that FAPA has a good relationship with our management is not a good talking point when you are trying to convince the RAH Native Pilots to vote for your idea.

And for whoever said they received a mailing from the IBT, if you are not an IBT member already, no, it is not ok in my book. If you are then yes, obviously they have your address because you are a dues paying member.

 

[ChinaClipper]

Thats the kind of attitude....

that gets you the FAR's and no JA as a contract! BTW Does IBT have discount for any truck driving schools? Hair Gel? Gold Chains?

 

[SF340Guy]

that gets you the FAR's and no JA as a contract! BTW Does IBT have discount for any truck driving schools? Hair Gel? Gold Chains?

http://www.teamsterslocal317.com/main/page_317_driving_school.html
Yes they do, you need a job? We may just shut it down soon, so you might want to keep this link.

Signed in 2003, when we had 2 EMB145s and a bunch of Saabs. @ 39 I am over the Hair Gel and Gold Chain look. I think the son, jr, kid, whatever you like to call us "regional" pilots argument is a little old. In 2002 when the "mainline" pilots gave up scope, yes, there were quite a few young kids running around the terminal with their backpacks on, flying from PIA to ORD. 11 years later, we are a little older and wiser, and need to be compensated as such. What "region" is PHL to IAH? The North American region?

You guys think you are superior, and look down on us, keep it up, you aren't winning any votes with that attitude. Turn your hearing aid up and start listening. There is a lot of support for the IBT, and the sad part is, it is not even that they are a great union, it is mostly that FAPA did everything in their power to keep the RAH pilots out.

When they decided to outsource everything under 120,000 lbs, they lost my vote. When they took 2 Skywest pilots from SEA to DEN in the jumpseat, over a Republic pilot, they lost my vote. When they deface our crewroom board, they lost my vote. Since they are working with management to undercut us on the E190 flying, and are trying to make a deal to hire off the street FOs for it, they lost my vote. When they proposed stapling us to our own list, they lost my vote. When they outsourced their own survey to Cananda, they lost my vote. When they, what will they do next?

And, when they did not work with SWA to get bought by them instead of us, they should have lost yours.

 

[Lake Alice]

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[A320kid]

Hey SF340Guy --

"Since they are working with management to undercut us on the E190 flying"

Dont we have to fly them for less for it to be considered undercutting? By all means, get better airbus rates with our QOL and I'm all yours 357.

Wake up.

 

[ChinaClipper]

6 years of Rope-a-Dope in Section 6? Tunnel under the fence? RAH PILOT APPROVED freeze out of F9'ers from the IBT? You want respect, EARN IT! All we have seen from the Guido's, the un-incarcerated ones anyway, is a dues grab, seat grab, and a big middle finger. All this from a Union that has the WORST PAY RATES and NO WORK RULES....in six YEARS of Section 6? Hmmmmmn, seem a lot has been SAID about what FAPA MAY do, but the IBT has a patter of ACTIONS that are gonna come back to haunt you. BTW ain't no body looking DOWN as a default setting, but the lack of respect comes from the ACTIONS of Da Teamsta's...all voter approved BY THE RANK AN FILE RAH PILOT GROUP! So who has the upper hand? All glory is fleeting.....BTW Did I mention this is a MOOT POINT? F9 and probably the 195's are going to F9 and being spun off....the pilots go with the planes....I won't be around to see it, for sure. Signed; a former shop steward, organizer, Pro Standards, and it. Sad to say but ONLY the IBT 357 has made BB a better option than Labor. Signed