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LivestockTony

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I last flew in 1997, I recieved my PP certificate in 95. I just got my medical renewed, and I'm studying for my flight review, and I noticed that:

pt 61.109 Aeronautical experience [private pilot]
(a2i) One cross country flight of over 100 nautical miles total distance
(a3) 3 hours of flight training in a single engine airplane on the control and maneuvering of an airplane soley by reference to instruments ...

In looking through my logbook, I find that I had 3 hours of night prior to taking the practical test, but no cross country, and I had .2 hrs of instrument (I'm almost certain that at the time the requirement was only for familiarization and 180 deg turn). When I stopped I had 5.5 hrs night with no xc and 6.4 hrs (.9 actual 5.5 simulated) instrument. I also had 22.8 hrs day xc for some reason before taking the practical test (28.3 when I stopped).

So, I have a few questions:
1- Am I correct that the two mentioned regs were added or ammended since 1995? If not, was my certificate issued in error in which case do I need to retake the private checkride, or is a flight review still sufficient?

2- Generally, when aeronautical experience requirements for a certificate change, and in changing make a pilot who has been certificated no longer have the aeronautical experience required for that certificate, can that pilot act as PIC of an aircraft before meeting the new requirement? (<-- I'm sure that can be worded better :) )

also..
3- XC requirement for the instrument rating is 50hrs PIC. Do I have 5.5 hrs PIC xc, or do I go back and figure out the solo xc and apply that as well?

I haven't decided on a flight school yet, (waiting for my replacement certificate to come from the FAA) but I'm trying to figure as much as possible what I'm going to be asking for in the way of a flight program when I walk in.

Thanks in advance, this board has been very helpful so far
-TF
 
yes, you will need to take the oral and practical tests over again, since according to your logbook, you did not meet the requirements...............in 2006
 
Metro752 said:
yes, you will need to take the oral and practical tests over again, since according to your logbook, you did not meet the requirements...............in 2006

Really? That would imply that everybody who got certified back in or before 1995 would have to retake their oral and practical after the regs changed.

And they did change, by the way, if LivestockTony's information about current standards is correct. I took and passed my checkride in 1996 with 0.5 hours of logged instrument time. The examiner admitted to me later he had wanted to throw simulated instruments at me first, expecting a quick end to the checkride. But I nailed it, despite having such brief training in it. If my low simulated instrument time had attracted that kind of attention, it must have satisfied whatever the minimum requirements were at the time.

I think LivestockTony's certificate (and mine, for that matter) is still good, provided his medical and Biennial Flight Review are in order. Otherwise, I'd expect to see him listed under FAR 61.11: Expired pilot certificates and reissuance. He's not in there.
 
Your certificates are good forever. The only things that would expire would be a medical or CFI ratings. And to answer number 3, your solo xc's were PIC xc's so that will count towards your instrument rating.

For the FR, review any items on the sectional's legend that you are unfamiliar with. I can't think of any significant changes that have been made since '97 (I got my pvt in '98) that would affect you. Read the AIM, Airplane Flying Handbook and brush up on weather reporting and you will be fine. Good luck.
 
Thanks for the replies. I hadn't picked up on the slarkasim:eek:, at first. I just wish I knew where my original certificate was, so I didn't have to wait for the replacement to show up. (Sent for it a week ago, the FAA's airman certification website says two weeks)

I think I just got confused 'cause the FAR is littered with "unless prior to 1967.. foo"

-TF
 

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