Ram Air Freight

[mbw]

I've kept my resume updated with them, and finally got a application in the mail last week. Does anybody have any info on the hiring process? Any info about the company, interview, ground school or tips will greatly appreciated...Thanks

 

[upndsky]

I work for Ram although I can't tell you much about the interview process since it's changed since I got there.

Things are starting to move again after almost a year of stagnation. We've had around 8 pilots move on in the last few months and there are others who have interviews lined up.

I think Ryan (our CP) has been sending out apps to see how many are still interested or available. A lot of pilots who have sent resumes have since found other jobs. This is probably a way to shorten the stack. So if you're really interested, definitely send in the application. To increase your chance of getting a job, be willing to move and be willing to come at a moments notice. It's not unusual for someone to get a call on Thursday or Friday for a Monday class.

As far as training, it is one week long. First day is all groundschool and a drug test. The rest of the week is a mix of ground school, flight training and ride alongs. If all goes well, you do the checkride on Friday or during the weekend. Training is pretty intense because there's a lot of stuff to learn and little time to learn it in. Be sure your flying and instrument skills are up to par. We'll work with someone up to a point but if we're going to tell you to get some more experience and try back another time. Luckily that doesn't happen very often.

Otherwise, Ram has been a pretty good place to work. The experience is awesome, maintenance is good, but the pay sucks. And you can not be afraid of weather. If low minimums, ice and thunderstorms make you nervous, good (you should be). If they make you scared, though, than this is NOT the place for you. Single pilot IFR freight flying is a whole different animal than instructing. Do a gut check before you are ready to commit to come here. But once you do, this will be the most fun flying job you'll probably ever have.

 

[mbw]

Ram Air

Thanks for the info...all sounds really good offcourse all except the pay but nothing we can do about that. Any advise as far as what to study for? FAR 91, 135, Wx?

Thanks
mbw

 

[upndsky]

Don't worry too much about the 135 stuff. It can get pretty confusing if you don't have someone there to explain it to you. They'll do that in class. Bone up on instrument procedures, most of which is in the AIM. If you haven't flown GPS approaches, read up on those. All our aircraft have Appolo GX-50 IFR-approved GPS. Although not as common as a Garmin or King, it's a good unit. I'm one of the instructor pilots and I would say that this is the one area most new-hires struggle in. If you haven't flown a GPS approach, find someone who can take you up and show you one (doesn't matter what unit). Before you come to class, you'll get a CD with a GX-50 simulator on it so you can practice on your computer. Also, if there is a Lance or a Seneca on the field, see if you can get a few hours of stick time in it or at the very least, get familiar with the cockpit layout. If you don't have much Piper time and there isn't a Lance on the field, any Cherokee type will do since the cockpits are laid out fairly similar.

Hope this helps.

 

[icefr8dawg]

single engine question

question for Ram Air Guys,
How do you deal with ice in the single engine aircraft?
I would be interested in working at Ram because cargo has almost vanished at my current gig. However, I can't imagine operating all toosucessfully during the winter in a non deiced single.
Rob

 

[upndsky]

Simple, we ground the singles and upgrade the runs for that day to a twin. If we're short planes due to maintenance, we farm the work out. Our customers know this and its written into the contract that they'll eat the extra costs. It happens rarely, though. So far this year, we've only had one day where we grounded the Lances. Last year, I think it was only four or five days. The company is pretty good about stuff like this.

 

[mbw]

ram air

upndsky...thanks for the info.

I feel pretty confident on the GPS and instrumnet skills...I just hope I get the call. Do they call you in for an interview or do you just get selected into a class?

thanks
mbw

 

[icefr8dawg]

Yea, cool, thanks for the info. We had several guys working with us up here in NJ that worked for RAM. One moved on to fly Hawkers and the other tried to scare us all with horror stories from RAM on day one of ground school. He failed an sic ride twice and was asked to leave, I think he got fired from RAM as well.

I'll send a resume down there but I don't feel like it will be well recieved since the website says not to send, fax or email. Any idea if they would entertain qualified applicants with prior 135 and hard weather experience?

Rob

 

[upndsky]

That's typical. The only former Ramairians I know who knock the company are those who have been asked to leave. Everyone else I know has had a positive experience here. Don't get me wrong, this place isn't Eden, but for a freight outfit, you could do a lot worse.

As far as getting a look, go ahead and send in a resume to the CP, regardless of what the web site says. The worse they can do is throw it out (they won't). In the past having too much time or experience would have hurt you, since the theory is that you wouldn't stick around here very long. Ryan does all the hiring decisions but he's only been our CP since summer, so I don't know what his thoughts are on it. Again, you won't know if you don't apply.

mbw, if there is an interview, it's a short one over the phone, very casual, just trying to get to know you. There's no face-to-face like you would get at an airline. If you get a call, it's to see if you're still interested and probably to offer you a class. The only way to blow it is if you come across as a complete idiot or worse, a complete a$$.

 

[Riddlebratt]

Just curious!!! where is Ram located and what are their minimums. I've just crossed the magic 1200/200 line with some Hawker time as well.