Quick 135.265 duty/rest question

[V2plus25]

Under Part 135.265 rest regs:

I'm on 24 hrs of rest.
Then am on duty for 4 hours.
Then rest for 10 hours 15 minutes.
Then I have a 16 hour duty day (ouch).
.
.
I then HAVE to have 10 hours COMPENSATORY rest (less than 8 hours of flying) before I can come back on duty, right?

That way at the very end of my 16 hours duty day I can look back 24 hours and still have enough rest (the last 8 hours of my 10 hr. 15 min rest period). So my schedule looks like: 8 hrs rest - 16 hrs duty - 10 hrs rest (compensatory).

Please tell me I didn't d*ck this up and have to take the 8 hour reduced rest AFTER the 16 hour duty day.

 

[mavrck]

16 hour duty day under 135? hmmm seems like you are a bit over duty to me.

 

[340drvr]

16 hour duty day under 135? hmmm seems like you are a bit over duty to me.

He didn't say anything about flight time after the 14th hour. IIRC the 10 hours rest resets the "clock" unless you've flown over limits during the previous "shift."

 

[V2plus25]

9 hours of rest gives you 15 hours of duty for a 24 hour period

.. hence, in my mind, the 9 hrs of rest reduced to 8 can give you a 16 hour duty day in a 24 hour period.

 

[100-1/2]

There is no such thing as a 'quick' 135.265 question.

You can't rub two faa dudes or their lawyers together
and get anything but static.

A very prominent and respectable FED recently told
me the back of your medical contains some very useful
info. Foundations near IAMSAFE.

We have been waiting a very, very, very, very, very,
long time, for promised revision from the rulemaking and
135 comittees for an applicable standard.

The hard rule is 10 consecutive hours of rest within ANY
24 hour period. Ditto the 9/15/24 post.

Also, transportation not local in nature is not considered
as part of a rest period. Paid commute, airfare, Part 91
reposition, etc.

If you are at the FBO calling the tower every two hours to
keep your IFR on file for the Exec that just can't quite yet
leave the party (or for Boeing Execs, their mistress). After
about the fourth round with clearance delivery you answer
the cellular and are asked to go back to the Hotel for 5 or
6 hours of "rest" to return promptly for a early a.m. departure.
You will be violated under 135 if you are fortunate to survive
a mishap. You were "available" (included terminology expected
with proposed rewrite) and on duty UNTIL you departed the
airport for the hotel. You then accepted a trip during a required
rest period to meet the Exec's schedule and extremely delayed
departure.

Most carriers abide conservatively within the current form
constraints, while a fairly good number dilly dally in the gray
area and exploit the less than firm FAR grasped or employ-fearful
crews. It sucks and blows, but the nature of the beast void
of much needed revision.

"Sorry, Mr. smith, you did so, much shagging today, you bought
yourself another 10 hours. I don't want to kill you and you don't
want to die. See ya at 10am."

100-1/2

 

[fly4free]

Part 135 Scheduled Ops

Under Part 135.265 rest regs:

I'm on 24 hrs of rest.
Then am on duty for 4 hours.
Then rest for 10 hours 15 minutes.
Then I have a 16 hour duty day (ouch).
.
.
I then HAVE to have 10 hours COMPENSATORY rest (less than 8 hours of flying) before I can come back on duty, right?

Please tell me I didn't d*ck this up and have to take the 8 hour reduced rest AFTER the 16 hour duty day.

That's a "Scheduled Operations" reg.

Sorry, my 135 experience is limited to the more common Non-Sched rules.

If it were non-sched the only way you get a 16 hour duty day is with 3 crewmembers - 10 hours rest...18 hours duty...12 hours rest.

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