Question for UAL pilots?

[Tail Gunner Joe]

Is it true that you have 70 seat scope? I've been told with the new JCBA that if your scope was improved manpower needs would be anywhere in the 500-1000 pilot range. Not trying to stir the pot just trying to get a relatively simple answer. Thanks...looking forward to some new senior managment and working with you all.

 

[BoilerUP]

Yes, they have 70 seat scope with the exception of the "AWAC quota" which is not currently being exploited by Tilton.

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UNITED AIRLINES REWRITE 2003 ALPA

1-K-18 "Market" means a pair of airports, e.g., ORD-MSP. 1-K-19 "Non-Stop" means a flight in a Market that does not include a scheduled intervening take off and landing. 1-K-20 ''Parent'' refers to UAL Corp. (''UAL'') or any other Entity that has majority control of the Company, whether directly or indirectly, through the majority control of other Entities that have majority control of the Company. 1-K-21 "Round Trip" means a pair of flights to and from one city in a Market to the other, e.g. ORD-STL-ORD. 1-K-22 "Small Jets" means (a) Jet Aircraft that are certificated in the United States of America for seventy (70) or fewer seats and a maximum permitted gross takeoff weight of less than eighty thousand (80,000) pounds and (b) up to eighteen (18) specific aircraft with certificated seating capacity in excess of seventy (70) seats operated by Feeder Carrier Air Wisconsin Airlines Corp. ("AWAC"). These eighteen aircraft are identified as the "AWAC Quota". Currently, the AWAC Quota is filled by BAe-146 aircraft with the following tail numbers: N463AP, N179US, N181US, N183US, N606AW, N607AW, N608AW, N609AW, N610AW, N611AW, N612AW, N614AW, N615AW, N616AW, N290UE, N291UE, N292UE, and N156TR. AWAC may replace any aircraft within the AWAC Quota with: (i) any other BAe-146 or AVRO 85 aircraft each with no more passenger seats than were carried in the actual operation of the replaced aircraft, or (ii) any other aircraft with a maximum certificated seating capacity in the United States of eighty-five (85) seats and a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of up to ninety thousand (90,000) pounds. 1-K-23 "United States" when referring to geographical extent means only the States of the United States of America and the District of Columbia. 1-K-24 "United States and Territories" means the United States and its territories and possessions including but not limited to the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico. 1-K-25 For the purposes of paragraph 1-F the following definitions will apply: 1-K-25-a Consolidated UAL Corp Total Operating Revenue - United Airlines and Regional Affiliates passenger revenue, cargo, and other operating revenues 1-K-25-b Consolidated UAL Corp Total Operating Expense - Salaries and related costs, Aircraft fuel, Regional Affiliates expense, Purchased services, Landing

 

[St. Nic]

With the UAL/ AWAC messy divorce I don't see any AWAC 85 seaters showing up again with UAL colors

 

[Hvy]

Is it true that you have 70 seat scope? I've been told with the new JCBA that if your scope was improved manpower needs would be anywhere in the 500-1000 pilot range. Not trying to stir the pot just trying to get a relatively simple answer. Thanks...looking forward to some new senior managment and working with you all.

The goal is 50 seat SCOPE. With workrule changes alone (UALs), the Continental side will be short app. 400 pilots.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Is it true that you have 70 seat scope? I've been told with the new JCBA that if your scope was improved manpower needs would be anywhere in the 500-1000 pilot range. Not trying to stir the pot just trying to get a relatively simple answer. Thanks...looking forward to some new senior managment and working with you all.

Hey Tail Gunner....Thanks for copying my post earlier...get a new gig.