Question for the ACMI carriers...

[El Piloto Chido]

#1 Do the ACMIs have ID90 or similar bennie with contractee airlines? For example: World Airways with Lufthansa, or Kalitta with Asiana. My inquiring wife would like to know.

#2 Int'l Jumpseat: is it common to have such agreements with U.S. carriers. Say, if you're stuck on the far side of the world and need to get home.

Are some ACMIs more generous than others in this regard?

Any info would be most appreciated. Gracias.

 

[dutch747]

#1 Do the ACMIs have ID90 or similar bennie with contractee airlines? For example: World Airways with Lufthansa, or Kalitta with Asiana. My inquiring wife would like to know.

Not that I have ever heard of.

#2 Int'l Jumpseat: is it common to have such agreements with U.S. carriers. Say, if you're stuck on the far side of the world and need to get home.

I've never been allowed to jumpseat on any foreign carrier, never heard of anybody doing this either. Most foreign carriers don't even have "jumpseat privileges"

Are some ACMIs more generous than others in this regard?

Any info would be most appreciated. Gracias.

The ones that have been around the longest tend to have the most privileges. I.E. World, Atlas, Polar. Hope this helps.

 

[El Piloto Chido]

#2 Int'l Jumpseat: is it common to have such agreements with U.S. carriers. Say, if you're stuck on the far side of the world and need to get home.

Thanks for the info.

Regarding the above quote, I was thinking along the lines of U.S. carriers, for example: you're a pilot with Kalitta or Gemini, and you want to jumpseat internationally on AA, Continental, or maybe UPS. Was wondering how feasible that would be.

BTW- I realize that if your company needed to fly you somewhere they would (and should) arrange an airline ticket. I raise the jumpseat issue only because I think it would be a valuable backup, especially if your aircraft breaks down in Hong Kong and you need to get back to CONUS for some reason.

 

[fokkers&beer]

I know when I worked for Gemini some guys would J/S back and forth from Europe. We would also take riders out of the country.

 

[airgator]

Thanks for the info.

Regarding the above quote, I was thinking along the lines of U.S. carriers, for example: you're a pilot with Kalitta or Gemini, and you want to jumpseat internationally on AA, Continental, or maybe UPS. Was wondering how feasible that would be.

You can jumpseat international as long as you have reciprocal agreements. I'm with Kalitta and have jumped on United to Tokyo with no problem. As for the ID 90's, Kalitta has an agreement with Martinair.

 

[One Dot Low]

BTW- I realize that if your company needed to fly you somewhere they would (and should) arrange an airline ticket. I raise the jumpseat issue only because I think it would be a valuable backup, especially if your aircraft breaks down in Hong Kong and you need to get back to CONUS for some reason.

If the company needs to fly you somewhere, they HAVE TO buy you a ticket to that destination, period.

If you are caught jumpseating when the company should have bought you a ticket, your company can be remove from the jumpseat list, i.e. Black balled. If that ever happens, you collegues will eventually give you a nice pillow party for screwing it up for everyone.

Jumpseating is strictly for personal use, NOT for company use.

 

[fogrunner]

Gemini has reduced cost travel agreements with Delta, Sun Country and Finair to include dependents.

 

[El Piloto Chido]

If you are caught jumpseating when the company should have bought you a ticket, your company can be remove from the jumpseat list, i.e. Black balled. If that ever happens, you collegues will eventually give you a nice pillow party for screwing it up for everyone.

Jumpseating is strictly for personal use, NOT for company use.

Also, a smart attitude towards the gate agent, getting crosswise with the Capt, i.e. any number of things can "screw it up for everyone." I've been jumpseating in the lower 48 for the last four years with my company through CASS and recip agreements with other airlines for DOMESTIC travel only. When I DO jumpseat, it's always to get back to wife and kids, OR to get to the crashpad. I know some of the more scumbaggy outfits try to save money by getting their pilots to jumpseat on company business, but fortunately, I don't fly for one of those.

Perhaps my post was a little vague. By mentioning "other reasons" I was trying to imply personal travel.

As for me, personally, my "other reasons" for int'l jumpseat I mentioned earlier might be to see a family member in BAH (USN 5th Fleet), visit relatives in Dominican Republic, or maybe high tail it back to the 'States to see parents- they're both getting up there in years you see.

 

[CCDiscoB]

...I raise the jumpseat issue only because I think it would be a valuable backup, especially if your aircraft breaks down in Hong Kong and you need to get back to CONUS for some reason.

There is no getting back to the states during a trip. The company has to get you back since HKG isn't a base.

...If you are caught jumpseating when the company should have bought you a ticket, your company can be remove from the jumpseat list,

Yes this is very true, but I often wonder how many dudes with Airfare Banking take advantage of the system. I'm sure it happens a lot.

 

[Draginass]

Don't even think about using the jumpseat privilege for other than personal travel or to save your company money. The scumbag freighter outfits get a very good deal by being allowed to jumpseat on pax carriers, since they have almost nothing of comparable value to reciprocate with. If you're caught abusing a jumpseat privilege, it's likely you'll get your fellow company pilots banned from jumpseating with that carrier.