Question for Ferry Pilot

[Horizon]

If you have to move an airplane that is on the other side of the country, how do you get there? And what if you must deliver an aircraft to the other side of the country? How do you get back home? Do you simply fly with an airline to and from these locations???

 

[NW_Pilot]

If you have to move an airplane that is on the other side of the country, how do you get there? And what if you must deliver an aircraft to the other side of the country? How do you get back home? Do you simply fly with an airline to and from these locations???

You have the customer pay for an airline ticket both ways as part of the expenses or it's a long walk!

 

[PacoPollo]

I Usually pay for my ticket, meal and Hotels. Since I only fly GA for fun.

 

[NW_Pilot]

I Usually pay for my ticket, meal and Hotels. Since I only fly GA for fun.

He was asking "Ferry Pilots" people who get paid, Not scum suckers that do it for free and take jobs away from other hard working pilots. If the customer can afford an airplane they can usually afford to pay someone a reasonable amount + their expenses to have their airplane delivered. As I tell them Expenses are Expenses one way or another they will have them either if They do it or if I do it!

I also inform them that expenses may be less if I do it because I do it for a living. I know my way around mountain passes, routing around large restricted areas that are usually hot, Have most the charts already, know where cheap fuel & lodging is, etc.


I have listened to many horror stories from my customers dealing with the free pilot's or ones that will pay expenses they are the ones that end up abandoning the airplane in BFE to return to their days jobs because of a weather delay or mechanical problem and/or they cannot complete the flight in a weekend.

 

[Espalda Mojado]

Haha, some of us can jumpseat for free, why should the customer have to pay for that?

I have 15-17 days off a month, plenty of time to do some fun flying away from the airline life. People will trust their airplane to an experienced pilot with an ATP over someone who is just building time.

When PacoPollo and I open up www.mexicanfly.com, we will create an online network of experienced airline pilots willing to do GA ferry flights for fun, at little or no cost to the customer.

 

[NW_Pilot]

Haha, some of us can jumpseat for free, why should the customer have to pay for that?

I have 15-17 days off a month, plenty of time to do some fun flying away from the airline life. People will trust their airplane to an experienced pilot with an ATP over someone who is just building time.

When PacoPollo and I open up www.mexicanfly.com, we will create an online network of experienced airline pilots willing to do GA ferry flights for fun, at little or no cost to the customer.

Yep, you already have a job flying why don't you just do that job and quit taking jobs away form the low time pilots looking to advance in aviation or like my self do it for a living? If you want to have fun flying GA buy an airplane or go rent one. You would be pissed if someone took your 737 job because they are willing to do it for free, or pretzels and cheese.

 

[Espalda Mojado]

Did somebody say cheese?

 

[PacoPollo]

Haha, some of us can jumpseat for free, why should the customer have to pay for that?

I have 15-17 days off a month, plenty of time to do some fun flying away from the airline life. People will trust their airplane to an experienced pilot with an ATP over someone who is just building time.

When PacoPollo and I open up www.mexicanfly.com, we will create an online network of experienced airline pilots willing to do GA ferry flights for fun, at little or no cost to the customer.

Thats correct. This network is on the works. Espalda and myself are defending the profession. We both have jumseat privileges we can travel the world for free.Why not use this to help some people ferrying airplanes?

 

[FlaZoomie]

Just walk home......

 

[aussiefly]

Thats correct. This network is on the works. Espalda and myself are defending the profession. We both have jumseat privileges we can travel the world for free.Why not use this to help some people ferrying airplanes?

See the problem is your helping aircraft owners whilst not helping your brother commercial pilots. Plus I beleive that ALPA would have something to say about you using the jumpseat for a business function. You are very well aware what it's meant to be used for.

So far you are:
1. undercutting other ferry pilots who do this to make a living
2. contributing to the downward spiral of the industry
3. Taking a job which would primarily be done by low timers and professional ferry pilots.
4. Misusing the jumpseat.

If word gets around as to why you are jumpseating you might find that you start getting denied.

This is just my opinion so take it for what its worth but I really think what your doing stinks.

 

[PacoPollo]

See the problem is your helping aircraft owners whilst not helping your brother commercial pilots. Plus I beleive that ALPA would have something to say about you using the jumpseat for a business function. You are very well aware what it's meant to be used for.

So far you are:
1. undercutting other ferry pilots who do this to make a living
2. contributing to the downward spiral of the industry
3. Taking a job which would primarily be done by low timers and professional ferry pilots.
4. Misusing the jumpseat.

If word gets around as to why you are jumpseating you might find that you start getting denied.

This is just my opinion so take it for what its worth but I really think what your doing stinks.

I wish we had a Union amigo.Im not undercutting no one. Im just trying to survive like you in this business.I got to take care of my family down the border.

 

[PAPA FOX!]

I think Espalda Mojado and PacoPollo the same guy. On every thread one always posts about how proud they are to work for peanuts and right away the other replies in lockstep.

 

[NW_Pilot]

We could always ask a mod to look at the IP's and tell us!! I don’t think the guy is smart enough to use a proxy!!!

 

[NW_Pilot]

This is just my opinion so take it for what its worth but I really think what your doing stinks.

I Agree!!!!

 

[NW_Pilot]

I wish we had a Union amigo.Im not undercutting no one. Im just trying to survive like you in this business.I got to take care of my family down the border.

This comment strengthens my opinion on closing off our borders to immigration of new humans in to this country unless they can be financially responsible and not take jobs form people that have families to support here in the US!!! Look at immigrating to any other country usually you have to have financial stability or deposit a large sum of money in to an account or invest in to the country economy!