Question about loggin dual given

[plunger]

let's say your a MEI, your flying with someone who has their MEL, both instrument rated. your flying IFR on a cross country. the other guy is flying (sole manipulator of the controls). can you still log that as dual given? or would it be safety pilot. (assuming he's under the hood). if so, wouldn't that look fishy that you have all this dual given time which is also cross country time? should you just log safety pilot time? thanks.

 

[labbats]

As a CFII in a single I'd log it as dual given. So I'd also log it as dual given as an MEI.

 

[plunger]

yeah but are you signing that persons logbook? i wouldn't want an instructor signing my logbook as dual recieved when i am all ready appropriatley rated for the flight. i guess you could just put it as dual given in your logbook and not sign theirs. they don't know how your logging it and knowo one else would either.

 

[lymanm]

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Why not log it? Let's say it wasn't a buddy, it was someone who needed experience in type for insurance purposes but who already had an ME ticket. Or getting a 747 captain familiar with a light twin. Or giving your buddy remedial training in IFR x-c procedures. Plenty of Or's...Just because it's not working directly towards a rating, it doesn't mean you can't give "dual given".

 

[bobbysamd]

Logging time

I would sign his logbook and log the time as PIC, X-C and dual given. Everyone needs a little instruction now and then. Moreover, time acting as a flight instructor is recognized PIC. PIC as safety pilot might not be given much credence.

Hope that helps some more.

 

[midlifeflyer]

If I was in fact giving instruction during the flight, I'd endorse the pilot's logbook and log it as PIC and dual given in mine.

If I was just going along for the ride or my role was supposed to be limited to that of safety pilot, I would not falsify my logbook and try to justify it so I could build more time.

[Telephone rings]
"Hello?"
"Hello. This is Inspector Smith from the FAA. There was a fatal accident last night. N1234X hit a power line during an approach. We see you gave him 25 hours of instrument dual during the past 4 months. We'd like to talk to you."