Primus 1000 vs 2000 avionics

[Tooslow]

Who knows what is the difference between the ERJ Primus 1000 and the D-328-300 Primus 2000 avionics? Do they both have V-Nav and V-Path?

 

[TOGA]

I flew a Starship for a short while (right seat, no training), and the only thing that I noticed missing on the 1000 in the EMB is that magenta arc denoting the projected TOC or TOD. I'm sure there's more, but with no training in the Starship . . .

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Primus 2000 has Vnav and the primus 1000 does not, at least on the equipment I have flown them in.

the 2000 in the 328 also has a five screen spread as opposed to 3, along with EICAS, and RMU's that the 1000 series does not. I have not flown anything other than the 328 with the 2000 in it, but the Citation X looks to be identical to the 328's avionics just placed alittle different. The 328's system also had brake temp monitors, control surface indicators, fuel tank graphics, apu screen, electrics, and pneumatics. The Primus 1000 is pretty stupid by comparison. Kind of like the playstation compared with the playstation 2.

There are probably more differences but I haven't flown the 328 in five years so the old brain mop is fading on its exact features. That was 3 types ago and you know how info drizzles out over time! Never flew the jungle jet so it may have updates that the other P-1000 airplanes do not. I still have a 328 system manual around here somewhere if you really need a specific number.......kept it just in case I need to use the type again!

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

I see now that you are a 328 driver so ignore the manual part of my post!

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

Actually the 1000 looks almost comsetically identical to the 2000. The 1000 has five screens, two RMUs, and two FMSs (sometimes one at XJT). Also, we have an ISIS. All systems are graphically displayed on the EICAS or MFDs (depending on the system) including brake temp monitors, control surface indicators, fuel tank graphics, apu screen, electrics, and pneumatics also.

We do not have VNAV (yet) however they keep telling us it is coming along with auto-throttles.

Really the only big difference between the two is that fantastic ghost needle. I really wish we had one of those along with the mangenta arc.

Other than all that they pretty much the same. The real mystery is why Embraer was too cheap to put the 2000 (or Collins)!

frats,

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

I guess the 1000 comes in several varieties then. I am currently flying a 1000 equipped aircraft and it is no where near what you describe on the Jungle jet. Must be like the cable commercials.....its a major upgrade!

 

[SkywayFO]

The other major diff. Is that the 2000 is digital and the 1000 is not. What this really means, well I think I slept through that part. The little I do remember is something about the amount of integration. The 2000 is a little smarter, it knows what ever other system is doing, the 1000 has to be told. Ok so that is over simplified but it makes sense in my head at 2 am.

 

[Obi-Wan]

I think you guys should go back and read your manuals before giving out the wrong info.

the only thing that I noticed missing on the 1000 in the EMB is that magenta arc denoting the projected TOC or TOD.

There is a magenta glide slope indicator, I use it all the time.

Primus 2000 has Vnav and the primus 1000 does not, at least on the equipment I have flown them in.

The 1000 is VNAV capable, its a simple upgrade of the IC600's. We are getting them at XJT.

The 328's system also had brake temp monitors, control surface indicators, fuel tank graphics, apu screen, electrics, and pneumatics.

Our ERJ's at XJT have those as well.

The other major diff. Is that the 2000 is digital and the 1000 is not. What this really means, well I think I slept through that part. The little I do remember is something about the amount of integration. The 2000 is a little smarter, it knows what ever other system is doing, the 1000 has to be told.

Wrong, all the components are talking to eachother at all times, including the DAU's and the IC-600's. The sytem is highly adaptable and upgradable. At XJt we are getting VNAV capability soon and the new computers will be able to drw cicles as well. ie, the ARC's and Holds. It is often faster and cheaper for certification to release an AC with more basic capabilities and upgrade later. Most upgrades are done using a simple CD.

 

[rptrain]

Primus 1000

Primus 2000

 

[TOGA]

Obi-Wan,
I don't know about the rest of your post, but as for your first quote (from me), perhaps you should go back and read my post before I "go back and read my manuals". Arc, not slope . . . it moves as you dial in a change to vertical speed. Master and apprentice, indeed.