Pinnacle Airlines

[cornbread]

Now our mechanics get hotel, rental car, and I do believe they get paid, the FA's get hotel but no pay, the pilots get nothing!

I know I am probably preaching to the chior, but they show no respect to your new-hires. The kicker is the ID. "You're good enough to be an employee here but we just can't justify the high cost of an ID at this point." OUCH. That is no team I would want to be on for ANY length of time. Again, this is towards your company, not the pilots that make it possible.

The salt to the wound (that I was unaware of) is the above quote. That really hurts.

Oh, and yes, Memphis only has two things Beale Street and a guy named Elvis.

I feel for the people who will get class dates next spring or summer. The bang for the buck will not be there.

NDPilot,
I think he is referring to the amount of seniority that will surge under you if you are on now (or soon). Which would ease the pain of two months of indentured servitude. As for those getting on the list later, the blow is not softened much if your low on the seniority list. I may be wrong in my interpretation.

 

[dondk]

NDpilot...

Cornbread hit it on the head!! Right now a guy or gal in training or near to class will still be in the 50-60% of the pilot group, after that your are in the higher 40% of seniority and looking at reserve for a long time until the jets catch up with the hiring. At some point we wil be hiring for reserves as there will not be enough jets to accomodate all of the pilots.

Cornbread...

yes it does suck that we are treated as third class employee's while in training. I have never been thrilled finding out other classes of employee's get different treatments. As it was put to me though... certain employee's are in demand and as such there will be "incentives" to obtain and retain those employee's. As for pilots, there are more than enough that they do not need an incentive. This came straight fro H.R. when I questioned the disparity and "discrimination" amongst employee's.

 

[DoinTime]

The HR department has been advertising a 1300 member strong pilot workforce for some time now. Even our own Union has stood behind this advertising. With the newest version of the IPO we are guaranteed a fleet of 95 (46 more than we have now) CRJ's to be delivered by the end of 2004. With Northwest's track record of whipsawing pilot groups I don't think we will be receiving more than the minimum until a new contract is signed (probably in late 2006). Under their current staffing guidelines these 95 aircraft would require 950 crew members. They have expressed interest (and already taken measures with the captains) in getting those guidelines down to 8.6 crew members per airplane or 817 for 95 aircraft.

With our seniority list already overstaffed to over 600 pilots the people getting on now, or in the near future will not enjoy the rapid advancement that people that got on over the past couple years because the deliveries will most likely stop before they get a chance to upgrade. We are going to have a considerable number of 3-4 year FO's before this is all behind us.