Phenominal?

[DObyDEFAULT]

My good friend Mikey told me Flops will be ditching the Crapjet400 for the the new Phenom....is this a new "Jets for Jobs" program?

 

[jonjuan]

My good friend Mikey told me Flops will be ditching the Crapjet400 for the the new Phenom....is this a new "Jets for Jobs" program?

Huh? Why would they get rid of the plane when the following description is shown on their website:


"The ideal light jet is one way to describe this aircraft, which combines high cruise speeds, tremendous aircraft reliability and a spacious cabin.

Flight Options operates the largest Beechjet fleet in the world. The Beechjet 400A/Hawker 400XP, the most popular light jet in the industry, is a top performer in the light jet category. With a maximum cruise speed of 504 mph; you will arrive to your destination faster. Faster cruise speeds equate to less occupied time-saving you both time and money. Add in a range of up to 1,677 statute miles and you have the perfect light jet to meet your unique missions."

 

[Dep676]

Because they are junk and do not do what the company sells them as. They sell them as fill the seats and go X-country. It can not do that and will never do that.

 

[Ultra Grump]

I've always wondered how FlOps makes those planes work. Ours don't because of performance and maintenance issues. Or doesn't FlOps have performance and maintenance issues??

 

[IronManNDFW]

No MX issues it is just added to the "watch list!"

No Performace issues either. Just sometimes you got to make a fuel stop. "It happens in all airplanes." Then when they say that the 800XP took them coast to coast, we just remind them that this isn't an 800XP but rather a 400XP. Half the airplane!

 

[dime line]

Ultra Grump, I don't want to get into a pissing match, but the BJ does work and just like IronMan said, no performance issues just a fuel stop. Our owners here at FLops know how to pack for the plane. NJ salesman touted the BJ as a direct replacement for one of your Cessnas ( don't know which one). But the plane isn't a direct replacement, you and I know this.

 

[Ultra Grump]

No pissing match, but I suspected you would say as much. Do you guys not calculate climb gradients? Our 400s get stuck all the time because they can't make 3.3 (with anti-ice on), let alone an obstacle gradient.

 

[dime line]

we do climb grad's just like you do. NJ isn't the only legal flying company!

 

[IronManNDFW]

Well let's see, do you calculate TKO distance? Well then duh!

Ask any 72 pilot about anti-ice switches and cimb, or more like anti-climb switches.

Every airplane has it's LIMITATIONS.

Here's a clue, don't go to places where you have to have A/I on for climb.

 

[Dep676]

Well let's see, do you calculate TKO distance? Well then duh!

Ask any 72 pilot about anti-ice switches and cimb, or more like anti-climb switches.

Every airplane has it's LIMITATIONS.

Here's a clue, don't go to places where you have to have A/I on for climb.

You may as well stay south then or wait until summer to bring the turds north.

Also I was just reading about the Phenom 300 and it does not seem any better than the BJ.