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check six

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What do most corporate part 91 jobs have as far as number of days per month you work.

What about number of hours of flight time per month.

Also, do most 91 outfits type you in the initial training.

Check Six.
 
check six said:
What do most corporate part 91 jobs have as far as number of days per month you work.

What about number of hours of flight time per month.

Also, do most 91 outfits type you in the initial training.

Check Six.

1) They are all different. Ours works us 15-18 days a month, anywhere in the world.

2) They are all different. We average between 25-75 hours a month. Mostly eating squishy food.

3) They are all different. Ours types you. They have to. Most of the places we go require the type.
 
they are all different. I enjoy the lifestyle but I have been fortunate. there are many pigs ears out there.
 
I have a couple of friends working in 91 departments who are getting hammered. One in Chicago for a company with two 604's is working 18 to 24 days a month. (No office face time required.) The other in Denver with a couple of Citations and a large cabin is working 25 days, plus.

I feel fortunate to be in the 15 day average (range is 5-23 for me with the extremes being rare).TC
 
I'm in 135 hell right now, so I only get 4 scheduled days a month off in a row. However, in reality, I only work about 11-17 days a month depending on how busy we are, how staffing is, etc. On average, I spend 2-3 nights a month away from home. Vast majority of trips are day trips only.
 
I'm averaging about 14 days or so, and about 30 hours worth of flying per month.

I don't fly an airplane that requires a type, however the company will type me when I step up to one that does.
 
Just remember, no two 91 jobs are the same. For me it's all day trips, flying 3 days a week. Type with inital training, no office face time except to do office work, i.e. Jepps. Average 400 hours a year. Yes, I am lucky.
 
I have a potentially dream 91 job, but it does not work out because of the manager; Fly on average 16 days a month but we ar required to be in the office Monday Friday 8-5 unless we flew over the weekend when we then get "comped" for those days during the week.

The upside is I fly a GV but that was n't even enough to make me stay as I have had enough, on my way out! Ah, in Europe away from the Mrs for two week I get four days away.

A 91 job is only as good as the Manager makes it.
 
15-20 days a month. 450 hours a year. 2 pilots and 1 mechanic. All the contractors we can stomach. We only do office work when it is needed. None of this go hang out and play solitare all day.

Managers make there pilots do that are fools.
 
CP + Co-captain (me). Contract mx, looking at 600 to 650 hours for the first year of a brand new flight department. Most weekends off, 3 to 4 days a week, sometimes 5. 100% domestic and 95% business-related. Both guys already typed. Many early AM departures combined with late PM arrivals (what duty limits ?!). No requirement to be in the office but a lot of ancillary work nonetheless. No washing airplanes, though. That would be it for me. Working on increasing staff. Still wouldn't go back to 135 if I could avoid it.
 
12 days scheduled for this month, which'll be my busiest month of the year so far. 300 hrs/yr average for the 7 years I've had the job.
30 days notice on about 75% of the trips. If we get less than 72 hrs notice, it's our option whether to take the trip or not. We try not to miss trips, of course, and one of us is generally available, along with the contract guy.
2 pilots, the DOM, who takes care of all of our hangar, expense, maintenance, and ship's supplies needs, and an excellent contract guy who fills in when needed.
 
2 Pilots, 1 plane, contract mx.

FSI every six months.

My CP's wife and my girlfriend are welcome to come along anytime we have an open seat. Exception: We just went to Puerto Vallarta with a full load so my boss paid for my GF to airline down and back.

No limit on meals, 4-star hotels.

Schedule is known 60-90 days in advance.

No pager, no "on-call", no pop-ups.

We have flown a total of 21 days w/12 RON's since Jan.1st.

I found the job on FlightInfo.

I thank God everyday.
 
I want your life HMR- I fly about 15 days month in a mixed fleet PIC in C500 SIC in g4. G4 trips usually are gone for about a week Citaiton trips rarely are more than 350 miles or overnight. Good hotels, good schedule and a good boss.
 
If I could work a little less and get paid a lot more it would be perfect. 2 pilots, both typed. 50 hrs average per month, but the big benefit is if there is space available we can talk our wives and kids. We also get to hang out with the boss and go sailing for a week in the BVI and Cabo with the wife for two weeks.
 
We average 12-15 days a month, probably average 5-6 RON's a month... Pilots average 400-450 hours a year... Good hotels, decent expenses... FSI twice a year... Can bring spouse along several times a year if we want... "On-Call" Mon-Fri 8am - 5pm, virtually no "pop-up" trips... 98% of trips are business, so we go, get the work done and come home... Schedule is posted around the 15th of the month prior... subject to change, but at least you have a pretty good idea... Also, no "face time" required... as a matter of fact, they really don't want you around if you aren't working... 3.6 pilots per plane (not including Management, 4.0 per plane if you include them)... Everyones typed...
 
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8 planes, 17 pilots, maintenance done in house (and avionics soon!). FO's typed in one aircraft. On call. There is a schedule but it's in pencil for a reason (ever-changing). The "rule" is that if you haven't been called by 6pm then you probably won't have a trip the next day (or monday, if it's friday). Pop-ups are rare, only 8 in just over 2 years. On days off you don't have to be in the office. FO's have Jepp duties but that's it. I had 77 RON's last year but only 20 so far this year. We fly ~300hrs a year. Getting time off is easy if you get your request in early enough. It's done on a first come basis, if too many other pilots have already been granted time off/or will be at school on the day you want off, you won't get it so get your requests in early.
I flew 5 days last month (a week of school and 2 weeks of vacation!) but normaly is 12-17 with my extremes being 5 and 26. Oh yeah, if called after 6pm and you've had a drink or aren't within your 2 hr callout of the airport, you can turn it down, no problems. If it's during the day and you have had a drink, you can turn the trip down. No guff from the company. It's never happened to me (like I said, only 8 popups in 2 years) but those that have said that there were no repercussions.
You guys with semi-schedules are making me drool...
 
Just curoius...for those who can take your family on the plane with you, how do you deal with the new tax laws that require non-employees to claim the flight as income on their w-4's.

Is your company showing these flights on your w4's?

Has anyone had their company stop non-employee from flying?
 
ww2flyer said:
I have a potentially dream 91 job, but it does not work out because of the manager; Fly on average 16 days a month but we ar required to be in the office Monday Friday 8-5 unless we flew over the weekend when we then get "comped" for those days during the week.

The upside is I fly a GV but that was n't even enough to make me stay as I have had enough, on my way out! Ah, in Europe away from the Mrs for two week I get four days away.

A 91 job is only as good as the Manager makes it.


that really sucks...what an idiot he must be. useless face time. it is one thing if you have a reason to be there, but 'OFFICE HOURS" for a pilot is a bad thing. get some experience and then leave.:)
 
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