Parked ASA Planes in ATL??

[av8er2]

I noticed a lot of ASA aircraft parked near the Delta hangar north of 8L approach.

It was way more planes parked than I have ever seen there.

Lack of crews, sick calls??

 

[Airboss]

I think its both July 1st ASA cancelled almost 100 flights! They are drafting many pilots, but there was a holiday schedule in effect this week.

 

[goahead]

July fourth equals a reduced schedule...... Duhhh

 

[rightseatjocky]

Saw them also. Sure is a lot of them sitting over there. Hmmm.. that's a great way to make money, let them sit. Makes sense to me.

 

[HarryParatestes]

I noticed a lot of ASA aircraft parked near the Delta hangar north of 8L approach.

It was way more planes parked than I have ever seen there.

Lack of crews, sick calls??

Lack of crews and piss poor management. ASA is one of the worst managed airlines. They need some adult supervision.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Amen to that...... ^5

 

[John Pennekamp]

I heard over 200 CREWS called in sick over last weekend. ASA's completion factor was 95%. Some 300 flights were cancelled. D'oh!

Imagine what we could do if we were actually organized.

 

[HoserASA]

I heard over 200 CREWS called in sick over last weekend.

Imagine what we could do if we were actually organized.

In '98 the pilots did their own thing. It succeeded. We got a contract! Just do your job!

Hoser

 

[Red Baron 03]

I heard over 200 CREWS called in sick over last weekend. ASA's completion factor was 95%. Some 300 flights were cancelled. D'oh!

I had the second day of a 4 day cancelled last week due to a 30 in 7 conflict. Basically they broke it up into a dayline with one roundtrip, a day off, then a short two day. I brought it up to a CP that this was a waste for me and the company because I would rather just have the first day cancelled, that way I would just have to commute to work once and they would only have to find a captain for one overnight instead of two. His reply was in essence, "It doesn't say in the contract that they can't do it that way." I guess we will have to negotiate to ALLOW the company to use common sense in our new contract. Otherwise they won't, and you can't make them.

Anyway I commuted in for the dayline and had it cancelled due to lack of an FO. Scheduling couldn't find anything that wouldn't take me into my company imposed day off, so I went home. I have no sympathy for these schmuks. They shoot themselves in the foot, over and over again.

This kind of stuff happens at ASA all the time, and I'm sure that other airlines are the same. It's as if management believes that if it is bad for the pilots it must be good for the company. What a monumental waste.

 

[Airline RC]

I heard over 200 CREWS called in sick over last weekend. ASA's completion factor was 95%. Some 300 flights were cancelled. D'oh!

I had the second day of a 4 day cancelled last week due to a 30 in 7 conflict. Basically they broke it up into a dayline with one roundtrip, a day off, then a short two day. I brought it up to a CP that this was a waste for me and the company because I would rather just have the first day cancelled, that way I would just have to commute to work once and they would only have to find a captain for one overnight instead of two. His reply was in essence, "It doesn't say in the contract that they can't do it that way." I guess we will have to negotiate to ALLOW the company to use common sense in our new contract. Otherwise they won't, and you can't make them.

Anyway I commuted in for the dayline and had it cancelled due to lack of an FO. Scheduling couldn't find anything that wouldn't take me into my company imposed day off, so I went home. I have no sympathy for these schmuks. They shoot themselves in the foot, over and over again.

This kind of stuff happens at ASA all the time, and I'm sure that other airlines are the same. It's as if management believes that if it is bad for the pilots it must be good for the company. What a monumental waste.

Amazing - that takes nerve - The company actually wanted you to FLY on a scheduled WORK DAY. You should call your union rep ! Those "company imposed" extra days off with pay really SUCK !

 

[jstyle13]

They were extending people left and right saturday morning (my capt and myself included). Listening to op's for parking spots on arrival lately and about every third call includes the old: and the FO and/or CApt. need to call scheduling......

 

[John Pennekamp]

They were extending people left and right saturday morning (my capt and myself included). Listening to op's for parking spots on arrival lately and about every third call includes the old: and the FO and/or CApt. need to call scheduling......

Tell them "No, I will NOT call scheduling. I don't work for Delta, feel free to have my ASA supervisor tell me to call. Good Day".

 

[sweptback]

Tell them "No, I will NOT call scheduling. I don't work for Delta, feel free to have my ASA supervisor tell me to call. Good Day".

So you're saying that when ASA handled ops in ATL that they were our supervisors?

 

[John Pennekamp]

So you're saying that when ASA handled ops in ATL that they were our supervisors?

Reading and comprehension problem? I didn't say anything about when ASA ran ops.

Don't read between the lines when nothing is written there.

 

[shamrock]

They're to the point that rampers are getting messages to extend crews. I had a one leg day last week and after pulling in to the gate (actually the lead-in line to spot 47) they were coming up telling us that there was an FO on our flight who was now going to *** and the plane was parked at spot 39.

Sorry chief, my schedule says I'm going home and nobody or consequence had told me anything different. Too bad, so sad!

 

[atlcrjdriver]

They were extending people left and right saturday morning (my capt and myself included). Listening to op's for parking spots on arrival lately and about every third call includes the old: and the FO and/or CApt. need to call scheduling......

Take this with a grain of salt, but per ALPA, this is not an official notification of anything from skd. They must either call you on the phone or leave a note in your mailbox per the contract. As far as ALPA is concerned unless they contact you by note/phone, you are free to leave if you are a line holder.

 

[VeeOne]

Take this with a grain of salt, but per ALPA, this is not an official notification of anything from skd. They must either call you on the phone or leave a note in your mailbox per the contract. As far as ALPA is concerned unless they contact you by note/phone, you are free to leave if you are a line holder.

I thought that there were only three ways you can be NOTIFIED of an extension that is legal per the contract:

Cellular telephone- if you are stupid enough to answer it because not everyone has a cell phone. I very rarely have mine on anyways. If this was an official means of notification, the company would pay for them.

You reply to the notification from ramp or ops when you taxi in. Sometimes it gets busy and you don't hear them tell you to call; especially when you are busy with ramp/gate changes.

The note in your box. And I thought this was the really the only prudent way to do an extension.

Is this any suprise to anyone though? I am expecting the extensions to get a lot worse after we told the company to bend over and shove their pay scale change for new hires. It only makes sense to me that their retaliatory response would be to piss us all off as much as possible to drive their point home via mass extensions.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Call the union number and ask if you like, but they talked about this during the member dues paid lunch.

 

[HoserASA]

I was talking with BD today, and management is all concerned about being short pilots (not the CPs, but G/O mgt). Horsies already out of the barn comes to mind. Brillant planning. And then they stopped paying 1 1/2 for picking up open time this month. Brillant again!

Hoser

 

[PalmettoPilot]

Cough, Cough... I think I'll be feeling better next week...

maybe.



Would it not be easier just to settle a fair contract?